FC2.0 TrackIR, Z-axis & Zoom

[coolts]

Guys

 

I can’t get TrackIR to move the Z axis properly. Default settings move about an inch forward or backwards. Changing the default axis assignment to “zoom” makes no difference.

 

It’s not a profile thing as it works fine in DCS: BS, LOMAC, FC1.12b, (insert flight sim here). I have tweaked the TrackIR profile to make Z-axis moves more aggressive but that just makes my head move that one inch a bit quicker.

 

The in-game axis tester for the TrackIR z-axis is fine and showing full axis travel so it’s nothing to do with admin/win7/vista palaver as I killed UAC and install nothing in the default folders anymore.

 

I have followed a few threads in order to fix this and ended up….here again.

 

Either;

·

I am being dense

·

It’s a game engine limitation

·

Its fixable through .lua

·

It’s a bug

I favour the former and am starting to lean towards the second point. Maybe the devs did this to stop people breaking the “limited 6DOF”? I really need to be able to have a good close up look at things whilst strafing, etc. Pressing the / and * keys works fine but isn’t the reason I shelled out for TrackIR. Mapping zoom to a rotary isn’t an answer as they are all taken, and in any case, that defeats the purpose of having TrackIR.

 

If it’s a .lua coded limit, then I can tweak that. Has anyone got this working as it did on FC1.12b as I really need that functionality. :helpsmilie:

 

Or a 30” monitor?

Edited March 30, 2010 by coolts

[USSR_Rik]

Guys

 

I can’t get TrackIR to move the Z axis properly. Default settings move about an inch forward or backwards. Changing the default axis assignment to “zoom” makes no difference.

It works perfect. Please try once again and attach screen with your axis assignments. Check also Z-axis in your TIR software - maybe this axis unchecked (Profile - Edit - Motion tab - Enabled column).

[coolts]

It works perfect. Please try once again and attach screen with your axis assignments. Check also Z-axis in your TIR software - maybe this axis unchecked (Profile - Edit - Motion tab - Enabled column).

 

 

I will try tonight and get you some screengrabs, but like I say, it works fine in TrackIR and DCS:BS. I only use one TrackIR profile, (set to "exclusive" in TrackIR app).

[Simbo Sim_123]

I have exactly the same problem as well.I am using the default Track IR profile and when I test the TrackIr out of game all the axis work.When I go to options in game and fine tune the TracIr axis they all work when I move my head.When I enter any aircraft,I get full horizontal movement,left to right to center and full vertical movement ,up to down to center but there is NO zoom axis working.

Anyone else have a problem ?

 

Paul

[RedTiger]

No, you're not alone:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51388

 

That isn't the only thread where this solution is given. I am also experiencing this, very little Z axis movement.

 

To be honest, I have no clue what they're talking about with "Absolute Longitude Shift Camera View". I see that in my axis listings, but there is no way to assign any thing to any of the TrackIR axes. The rows are blanked out, nothing to click on to open up the panel where you assign an axis. I'll see if I can get screenshots later. I'm hoping there's a simple answer to this.

 

EDIT: There's also this:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51693

 

Definately going to have to try that this afternoon!

Edited March 30, 2010 by RedTiger

[coolts]

"Absolute Longitude Shift Camera View", is a none starter as well. It’s functionally the same as "zoom" as far as results go. About 1 inch head movement either way.

Its as if the pilot is wearing a head brace or has been to a motorhead concert the night before.

 

My point is that this works fine in BS with the same engine. I will do some screen grabs later and hopefully get some answers as I am strafing like Mr Magoo at the moment

 

 

EDIT: There's also this:

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51693

 

Definately going to have to try that this afternoon!

 

This looks more like it to be honest. It just "smells" like a config limit rather than a bug.

Edited March 30, 2010 by coolts

[RedTiger]

Well, as EvilBivol-1 said in that thread, any limitaion was to prevent graphical glitches and artifacts. If there were full 6DOF from the get-go, then you'd have all the youngsters complaining that the cockpits are "crap" because they're not set up correct. :rolleyes:

 

The ability for 6DOF is left intact for the "advanced user", if you will. ;)

[coolts]

Heh, I guesed that. But for me, tweaking a .lua is preferrable to buying a £1,000 30" monitor. Or strafing a dot.

 

 

----------------EDIT------------------------

 

 

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zhuravlik

Change your axis Z in "Absolute Longitude Shift Camera View" and assign it to the zoom view

 

Regards

 

Just to add, this has to be done to every plane in menu, if you do it in free camera/axis commands it doesn't work.

 

Salute

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Edited March 30, 2010 by coolts

[Simbo Sim_123]

Got it sussed lads, click on AXIS COMMANDS and deselect TrackIR Z AXIS from the TRACKIR ABSOLUTE LONGITUDAL SHIFT CAMERA VIEW..

Select ZOOM VIEW and assign TRACKIR Z from the drop down box.

Start the A-10 quick mission and it works !!

 

Paul

[coolts]

But was that from the "free camera" bit or for the A-10 specific? I think iI may have been farting around in the wrong area.

 

Can your z-axis move properly? (ie. have a good close up look at your HUD?)

 

like this (from Beach's post)

 

Edited March 30, 2010 by coolts

[McDaniel]

there is an other alternative.......

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=51673

 

mcdan out!

[Simbo Sim_123]

But was that from the "free camera" bit or for the A-10 specific? I think iI may have been farting around in the wrong area.

 

Can your z-axis move properly? (ie. have a good close up look at your HUD?)

 

like this (from Beach's post)

 

You have to select Axis for each aircraft and select zoom view with the TrackIr z axis and save.

Hope that helps,this LUA scripting seems a bit daunting at the moment to me !

 

Paul

[RedTiger]

Got it sussed lads, click on AXIS COMMANDS and deselect TrackIR Z AXIS from the TRACKIR ABSOLUTE LONGITUDAL SHIFT CAMERA VIEW..

Select ZOOM VIEW and assign TRACKIR Z from the drop down box.

Start the A-10 quick mission and it works !!

 

Paul

 

 

Again, no clue what you're talking about. I have nothing to deselect from the "TrackIR Absolute Longitudal Shift...".

 

You know the axis commands, how it displays rows and columns? You know how you can click on one "cell" (Ex. Pitch and "CH Fighterstick") and assign an axis? By my TrackIR functions...nada. There is nothing to click on. There just a big blank space. I'll post a screenshot later, if I get a chance.

 

In other words, I cannot modify TrackIR in any way, shape, or form within FC 2.0. My TrackIR is not showing up as just another device with axes I can assign. I got my CH HOTAS, my Saitek Pedals, and the mouse. My guess is that perhaps I have too many devices. Maybe FC can only recognize up to 3.

 

I have never seen any sim, for that matter, that treats TrackIR as a device with axes you can assign. :huh: That's very odd.

Edited March 30, 2010 by RedTiger

[Phoenix FR]

Try this. Select the axis you want to fix. Click at the "Axis Tune" button at the right bottom. Move the Curvature slider to the left.

 

It works better forme. It's not perfect, but better.

[Simbo Sim_123]

OK Tiger try this mate from the top.

I am using a CH Fighterstick,CH Pro Throttle,Pro Pedals and a TrackIr 4 with version 5 software.You must have your TrIR running to see the options list for the TrIr.

Open the control page and select A-10A from the dropdown list if it isn`t selected already, then in the next box to the right select AXIS COMMANDS from the drop down list.You should have a list if all your hardware that FC2 can "see".

My list looks like,

ACTION..KEYBOARD..CH FIGHTERSTICK..CH PROPEDALS..CH PROTHROTTLE..MOUSE.. TRACKIR

from left to right ,all your devices should be there mate.

Use the scroll bar at the bottom of the "lists" to move to the right to find both the MOUSE and TRACKIR list.

If there are any MOUSE "cells" as you call them used on the list then click each one and click clear.When this is done then move to your TRACKIR list and find the TRACKIR ABSOLUTE LONGITUDE SHIFT CAMERA VIEW and click clear on that cell that says TRACKIR Z.

At the bottom of the list is ZOOM VIEW then select a cell in the empty TRACKIR list that corresponds with the ZOOM VIEW,click that cell then click the ADD button and select TRACKIR Z from the dropdown in the KEY/BUTTON box.

I have tried to make it as easy as I can without using pictures and if it reads too basic to what you understand in the sim then I am sorry mate !

Hope you get it to work.

 

Paul

[RedTiger]

No problem Simbo, thank you, that was a big hint. I don't think I was aware that there's a scroll button at the bottom to move the list over. I'm guessing TrackIR is there, but I need to move the list over to see it. I'll report back when I get home. Thanks!

[coolts]

Right. Done it. Simple really :doh::doh::doh:

 

A picture is worth a thousand words...

 

 

REDTIGER - Dont worry about there being no "box" for the assignemt. Just click where the box should be and the ADD button should become active.

 

Clear the original assignment first.

 

I could kick myself!

 

Ouch, i just did. :thumbup: oh, yeah, and if you can't see the TRACKIR column, use the scrollbar.

[DiBarkis]

Right. Done it. Simple really :doh::doh::doh:

 

A picture is worth a thousand words...

 

 

REDTIGER - Dont worry about there being no "box" for the assignemt. Just click where the box should be and the ADD button should become active.

 

Clear the original assignment first.

 

I could kick myself!

 

Ouch, i just did. :thumbup: oh, yeah, and if you can't see the TRACKIR column, use the scrollbar.

 

You don't have to clear the original assignment first. Just assign it anyways by double clicking, and if it tells you it's been assigned already to blah blah, do you want to change it? say yes.

[RedTiger]

Yep, the problem was that I didn't notice the scroll bar. :doh: I scooted the bar over and found TrackIR sitting their as a device. Then assigning the z axis to zoom worked. Thanks!