Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Why does the simulation not contain a 'flaps down' command? That seems rather odd given the obvious extent ED goes to replicate the real world control of the aircraft systems... As a pilot I would like control over my flap settings...if I want landing flaps in the A10 for instance I would simply cycle down flaps twice... As it stands now there appears to be no command that specifically tells the aircraft systems to set 1 notch of down flaps... Our choices are a toggle up and down....flaps up and flaps 2 notches down (in the A10)... Seems like an architectural flaw in the game mechanics...and NOT a feature. :doh: Oneway
RvEYoda Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) Hmm, ur right, I just tested it. However you can still create a joystick button that sets your flaps to 1 notch. Unknown -> no flaps: LCTL + F Unknown -> flaps 1: LCTL + F, F (joystick macro, you don't need any delay) Unknown -> flaps 2: LShift + F Edited May 16, 2010 by =RvE=Yoda S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 Update: The control already exists from the start, and is called "Flaps landing position" The reverse is "Flaps up" Negative on that.... What I am looking for is a command that is strictly flaps down...ONE Notch... In the A10 Landing position is 2 notches of flaps down... Such a command would take a flaps condition one notch down, and lower a second notch...and in other words go into landing configuration... Its rather elementary...and simple...'flaps up' which we do have, should have a sister control 'flaps down'
RvEYoda Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Negative on that.... What I am looking for is a command that is strictly flaps down...ONE Notch... In the A10 Landing position is 2 notches of flaps down... Such a command would take a flaps condition one notch down, and lower a second notch...and in other words go into landing configuration... Its rather elementary...and simple...'flaps up' which we do have, should have a sister control 'flaps down' check http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=904265#post904265 S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 Yep default F key and then Ctrl F for full flaps Negative on this as well.... The 'F' key is a toggle key that toggles between 'no flaps' and 'one notch down'....and in is in fact the problem... There is NO key or command that positively ensures a down movement of flaps under all conditions by an increment of ONE notch...
RvEYoda Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 Negative on this as well.... The 'F' key is a toggle key that toggles between 'no flaps' and 'one notch down'....and in is in fact the problem... There is NO key or command that positively ensures a down movement of flaps under all conditions by an increment of ONE notch... Oh, so you want to increment 1 step and not set a specific state I see. I thought you wanted to set flaps to specific state "1 step down" :) S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) check http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=904265#post904265 I tried this using the normal key press in my X52 pro, and the aircraft would not go to 1 notch... I did not try a Macro though... Will do so now and thank you... Oneway :thumbup: edit: Incidentally the solution posted in that thread clearly shows the problem...the problem being that 3 buttons must be programmed to operate a control that for purposes could be handled by 2 buttons...toggle flaps down and toggle flaps up...however if it works with a 3 button arangement I will be satisfied enough to move on... Edited May 16, 2010 by Oneway
RvEYoda Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) I tried this using the normal key press in my X52 pro, and the aircraft would not go to 1 notch... I did not try a Macro though... Will do so now and thank you... Oneway :thumbup: It didnt work? Have your remapped your ingame keys? OK maybe you do need a 0.1 s delay between key inputs? Because I just used these commands myself and they seemed to work fine Check carefully what buttons you enter, note I did not use the same command as h00t74 ------ Motivations Unknown -> no flaps: Press "flaps up" Unknown -> flaps 1: first press "flaps up" (flaps intended position is now guaranteed full up), then press "flaps toggle" Unknown -> flaps 2: press "flaps landing position" Edited May 16, 2010 by =RvE=Yoda S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 (edited) It didnt work? Have your remapped your ingame keys? OK maybe you do need a 0.1 s delay between key inputs? Because I just used these commands myself and they seemed to work fine Check carefully what buttons you enter, note I did not use the same command as h00t74 ------ Motivations Unknown -> no flaps: Press "flaps up" Unknown -> flaps 1: first press "flaps up" (flaps intended position is now guaranteed full up), then press "flaps toggle" Unknown -> flaps 2: press "flaps landing position" That worked...thank you very much.... But again the game should simply have two commands for flaps....up and down and they act as toggles...if their is an empty notch to go either up or down the game would simply retract or advance the flaps the additional setting....thus two clicks down from no flaps is landing...two clicks up from landing is clean...and an up or down click from flaps one notch down....well you get the point... :thumbup: Edited May 16, 2010 by Oneway
RvEYoda Posted May 16, 2010 Posted May 16, 2010 That worked...thank you very much.... But again the game should simply have two commands for flaps....up and down and they act as toggles...if their is an empty notch to go either up or down the game would simply retract or advance the flaps the additional setting....thus two clicks down from no flaps is landing...two clicks up from landing is clean...and an up or down click from flaps one notch down....well you get the point... :thumbup: yes now we got something in the middle :P u->0 u->2 0<->1<-2 it would be good to also have u->1 0->1->2 0<-1<-2 S = SPARSE(m,n) abbreviates SPARSE([],[],[],m,n,0). This generates the ultimate sparse matrix, an m-by-n all zero matrix. - Matlab help on 'sparse'
Oneway Posted May 16, 2010 Author Posted May 16, 2010 yes now we got something in the middle :P u->0 u->2 0<->1<-2 it would be good to also have u->1 0->1->2 0<-1<-2 I think I was a little hasty in declaring success...testing is showing whacky behavior if your in landing position and want to go up one notch using this method... If the method/system is not bullet proof I am not interested in implementing it... I am having a devil of a time getting the SST macro to work right... I will give this another hour or so before I throw in the towel...
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