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Hi there,

Last night i was trying to figure out heading-trim-hover. I'm not sure if you can fast forward the track i have attached but i had difficulties keeping the chopper facing my preferred heading even by using Auto Turn To Target the chopper would still circle around itself.

 

My Settings:

1) 15 Dead Zone on all Axis.

2) The trim to center is enabled in the gameplay options.

 

Thanks for the help.

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Hi Fire,

Very sorry, I cannot view your track at the moment (on netbook), however the key thing for you to check here is your rudder trim!.

 

Please, press ctrl-enter to bring up the controls matrix, and leave it open at all times! without the pysical feedback a real pilot has, this is the only way to be able to tell which control surfaces have been trimmed.

 

The other thing to do is make sure you are trimmed to a hover first BEFORE engaging auto hover...autohover is really only to be used for maintaining a position when heads down (ie looking at the Shkval etc..) ... if you are trimmed poorly and engage Auto Hover, then the auto-stabs will be unable to counter the trimmed in commands.

 

One other thing to check is that your AP channels are all on and FD is off, as the Auto hold controls are overridden by FD.

 

One OTHER thing to check ;) is the wind!...wind cocking can occur, and if the wind is very strong, you will need to trim in rudder to counter :)

 

Best of luck, and hopefully this isn't all stuff you have allready tried

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Hi Fire,

Very sorry, I cannot view your track at the moment (on netbook), however the key thing for you to check here is your rudder trim!.

 

Please, press ctrl-enter to bring up the controls matrix, and leave it open at all times! without the pysical feedback a real pilot has, this is the only way to be able to tell which control surfaces have been trimmed.

 

The other thing to do is make sure you are trimmed to a hover first BEFORE engaging auto hover...autohover is really only to be used for maintaining a position when heads down (ie looking at the Shkval etc..) ... if you are trimmed poorly and engage Auto Hover, then the auto-stabs will be unable to counter the trimmed in commands.

 

One other thing to check is that your AP channels are all on and FD is off, as the Auto hold controls are overridden by FD.

 

One OTHER thing to check ;) is the wind!...wind cocking can occur, and if the wind is very strong, you will need to trim in rudder to counter :)

 

Best of luck, and hopefully this isn't all stuff you have allready tried

 

Hi Nemsis,

Hmmm?? I know ZQuick mentioned something about RCTRL+ENTER. I will look into it.

AP channels were all on except FD. I will double check and read more about wind and instrument.

 

Thanks for the suggestions Nemsis, please have a look at the track when you have a chance.

 

When I trim, the diamond remains on the left or right and never in the centre where I’m flying to, I noticed that when I turn waypoint off, the diamond moves to the middle when I trim. So what’s your comment about this? Especially when hovering!

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See page 6-69 of the Extended Flight manual (or Pg2-68 of the Normal Flight manual)

 

You want to set the No7 switch to the middle position “ЗК” – desired heading hold

 

Nate

 

i will, thanks a lot Nate.

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See page 6-69 of the Extended Flight manual (or Pg2-68 of the Normal Flight manual)

 

You want to set the No7 switch to the middle position “ЗК” – desired heading hold

 

Nate

 

Hey Nate, this switch has only two options:

 

“ЗК-ЛЗП” (Desired Heading – Desired Track Angle) Autopilot Heading/Course hold mode [LALT + X]:

“ЗК” – desired heading hold

“ЛЗП” – desired track angle hold

 

The manual doesn't elaborate much on whet these options!

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When you trim with the AP Heading hold on, you are instructing the Blackshark to try to maintain the current heading (this is one of the 4 blue square buttons on the right hand side) ... the Diamond in the HUD indicates the currently set desired heading...thats why it moves whenever you press the trimmer, as you ar re-setting it to current heading.

 

I'm not sure what you mean by "when I turn waypoint off" .. I assume you mean you deselect any waypoint on the PVI ?... this will have no effect on normal flight, it will ony,change where the RMI needle is pointing on the HSI, and also would change where the Shark would head towards IF you have Route AP mode engaged ®.

 

The 3 switch settings you talk about above are to do with what the want the ROUTE auto pilot to do when engaged...wither head direct to the Waypoint (desired heading), or fly a direct route to intercept the desired track (desired track), or just keep flying straight on your current heading.

 

The most usual setting to use is "desired Heading" , however "desired track" is also usefull if your waypoint route is very specific (mountains, known SAM sites etc)

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Posted (edited)
Hey Nate, this switch has only two options:

 

“ЗК-ЛЗП” (Desired Heading – Desired Track Angle) Autopilot Heading/Course hold mode [LALT + X]:

“ЗК” – desired heading hold

“ЛЗП” – desired track angle hold

 

The manual doesn't elaborate much on whet these options!

 

That's 3 options in your list. You want the middle one.

 

Edit:- The middle option “ЗК” sets the autopilot heading to the same heading you are currently at, as you release the trim button. The autopilot will try to maintain this heading until you trim again. The First “ЗК-ЛЗП” and Third “ЛЗП” options tell the Autopilot to go to the Currently selected waypoint, just in different ways.

 

If you have no waypoint selected the Autopilot will behave as if the 2nd option “ЗК” is selected.

 

Nate

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I'm amazed at the support i'm getting from this community. With every answer i get from you guys i fall in love more and more with this sim. The the level of details this sim has is mind boggling :shocking:

 

Thank you all.

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Hi all,

The RCTL-ENTER helped a lot, kept me aware of my controller movement all the time which is good.

 

I noticed the lower i fly the more stable the chopper would be. There was one incident when i fired a missile the AP channels went off and the chopper crashed, couldn't tell whether i was hit with a missile! but there was no warning at all and laser warning system was reset.

 

I only have a stick, so i operate my rudder by twisting the stick, in the controller option i can only apply deadzone to the right rudder not the left! when i assign the rudder control this shows up in the setting as joy_RZ. This is messing up my flight because left rudder doesn't have a deadzone while right does!

 

Thanks.

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consider changing the curve then, in the Axis Commands section ... if you flatten the curve out a little in the X axis (curve wise, not Joystick Axis wise!) , then any inputs near 0 will be reduced...this will apply in both the +Rz and -Rz as shown by the curve.

That might help with accidentally inputting rudder, and consequently trimming in rudder also.... unfortunately what can happen is you will double transform input by trimming in a little bit, then trimming in a little bit more witout realising...sudden ly its more thatn the AP Stabs can handle, and you are riding a bucking broncho.

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consider changing the curve then, in the Axis Commands section ... if you flatten the curve out a little in the X axis (curve wise, not Joystick Axis wise!) , then any inputs near 0 will be reduced...this will apply in both the +Rz and -Rz as shown by the curve.

That might help with accidentally inputting rudder, and consequently trimming in rudder also.... unfortunately what can happen is you will double transform input by trimming in a little bit, then trimming in a little bit more witout realising...sudden ly its more thatn the AP Stabs can handle, and you are riding a bucking broncho.

 

nemises,

You are referring to User Curve not Curvature, correct?

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