Need help with Kh-31P

[combatace]

I'm not able to use Kh-31P on my Su-39 but AI can, can anyone help me on this?

 

Here are some screen shot for support

 

Here AI is flying and has Kh-31P

 

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Kh-31P shot by AI

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Me flying and no Kh-31P but it was in the load out.

 

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I can't understand how can this happen.

Edited October 6, 2010 by combatace

[GGTharos]

That would be because the Su-25T you are flying does have the requisite equipment to program and launch a Kh-31P.

[Boberro]

Kh-31P requires Fantasmagoria only IIRC, so it will work in all planes which use Fantasmagoria with Su-25T cockpit.

 

Su-39's been blocked by ED so you won't use Su-39 (Su-25TM) weapons.

 

You can create mod for another flyables - I often create server with working Su-17M4, Su-24 Fencer and default ones. Flying Su-17 next to either Warthog or Su-25 is nice ^^ - Su-17 attacks radars and bigger targets, Frogfoots take care rest.

Edited October 6, 2010 by Boberro

[combatace]

That would be because the Su-25T you are flying does have the requisite equipment to program and launch a Kh-31P.

 

I have it on my center pylon. I didn't exactly meant that I can't use it rather I meant that I does not appear in my load-out in game but it is shown in ME. So when the plane is set to player missile physically does not appear where as when the plane is set to AI the missile does appear and it is seen hanging on the pylons. This is what I exactly meant.

 

@ Boberro- what did you mean by blocked?

Edited October 6, 2010 by combatace

[GGTharos]

Okay, let me expand on it then; non-flyable aircraft are not supported. It is not considered a bug; you are flying a Su-25T which does not equip this weapon, and for that reason it cannot be used with it.

 

I have it on my center pylon. I'm didn't exactly meant that I can't use it rather I meant that I does not appear in my load-out in game but it is shown in ME. So when the plane is set to player missile physically does not appear where as when the plane is set to AI the missile does appear and it is seen hanging on the pylons. This is what I exactly meant.

 

@ Boberro- what did you mean by blocked?

[Boberro]

You can fly Su-25TM (Su-39) but you will be no able to fire either Kh-31P or Kh-31A. So generally you get Su-25T at all :}

[combatace]

Ah! Got it there are two Kh-31Ps defined in the db_weapons.lua file and the one that is by default added in Su-39 file has an error in it, the pylon type is not defined in it and the other one has it. So when I tried to place the other one I got it.. Sweet..

 

P.S. Ummmm.. Sorry posted above in hurry, now I get those missiles on my pylons but before I unpause but as soon as I start they just disappear.

Edited October 6, 2010 by combatace

[Boberro]

If you assign AI to Su-39 with Kh-31 it will use it. If you assign human to Su-39 with Kh-31, they will disappear :)

If that is only pylon error OK, but interesting AI knew how to use it oO

[combatace]

Okay, let me expand on it then; non-flyable aircraft are not supported. It is not considered a bug; you are flying a Su-25T which does not equip this weapon, and for that reason it cannot be used with it.

 

I tried GBUs on A-10 I was not able to use them but AI was able to bu then I was atleast able to fly with those bombs on me. So, not able to use a weapons due to game constrains in understood but not able to carry weapons that still is bouncing off my head.

[combatace]

If you assign AI to Su-39 with Kh-31 it will use it. If you assign human to Su-39 with Kh-31, they will disappear :)

If that is only pylon error OK, but interesting AI knew how to use it oO

 

And more interesting thing is that they don't disappear when AI is flying.

[GGTharos]

Well yeah, you don't have a laser designator so you can't really use them... I think they can be used on 'designated targets' from the ME though, esp if you have a wingman.

 

As for not being able to carry weapons, if it was just a pylon error, kudos for finding it.

 

I tried GBUs on A-10 I was not able to use them but AI was able to bu then I was atleast able to fly with those bombs on me. So, not able to use a weapons due to game constrains in understood but not able to carry weapons that still is bouncing off my head.

[Boberro]

I think Su-25T has restricted weapons - you can carry whatever is allowed there. But you won't add anything which is not allowed (example Kh-31). It's been present since LO1 :)

[combatace]

Well yeah, you don't have a laser designator so you can't really use them... I think they can be used on 'designated targets' from the ME though, esp if you have a wingman.

 

As for not being able to carry weapons, if it was just a pylon error, kudos for finding it.

 

Well the pylon thing just did one part of it and that is I can see the missiles when I start the mission but as soon as unpause it the disappear. So, still nowhere I guess and so I guess as Boberro said there is some restriction in it. Well I will try to add it in another slot may been then I will able to use it, offline though.

[combatace]

I think Su-25T has restricted weapons - you can carry whatever is allowed there. But you won't add anything which is not allowed (example Kh-31). It's been present since LO1 :)

 

You are right it does has restricted weapons but only for player. I tried to add AGM-65K and it worked for AI but not for player.

[GGTharos]

We all know the AI are a bunch of filthy cheaters ;)

[combatace]

We all know the AI are a bunch of filthy cheaters ;)

 

ha ha ha ha ha!!!!

 

But as you said when a human flies Su-39 it behaves as Su-25T and when AI flies it behaves as actual Su-39. And this is all because of Su-25T cockpit used for it.

Edited October 6, 2010 by combatace