zaGURUinzaSKY Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 I have toe brakes with my CH pedals :) and it works great. Do you have a working axis or a two stage pedal (on/off) ? Robbie.
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Just to confirm what another member thought was true, Russian aircraft do not have toe brakes. Differential braking is accomplished by moving the rudder pedals and squeezing the brake lever which is mounted on the front of the stick. ;)
169th_Moose Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Toe brakes? lol. What counts is up on the sky's. You can Toe brake as much as you want. Personaly aint my thing... Watch your six while you tip it toe. LOL I'll be there, hehe J/K. Cheers :rolleyes:
Guest Cali Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Do you have a working axis or a two stage pedal (on/off) ? It is a axis, I have the CH usb pedals and when I push them down...brakes work great. My pedals also control my rudders so when I'm on the ground I just push my left pedal to go right and the right to go left. They are a great investment, well worth the money.
zaGURUinzaSKY Posted August 22, 2005 Author Posted August 22, 2005 It is a axis, I have the CH usb pedals and when I push them down...brakes work great. My pedals also control my rudders so when I'm on the ground I just push my left pedal to go right and the right to go left. They are a great investment, well worth the money. I knoe about CH Pedals, I always used it, what I mean is can you modulate the brake force or you just have a on off situation controlled by the ch axis?? Robbie.
SwingKid Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 I occasionally fly the T. I haven't taxied off the runway yet. You can probably thank Shepski for that. ;) I lack rudder pedals so my nosewheel control may be subject to different issues than yours. Differential braking would have saved me dozens of Su-25. But then, so would a working nosewheel key. How do you land an airplane with no ground effect? Just to confirm what another member thought was true, Russian aircraft do not have toe brakes. Su-25(T) is an exception, it has toe brakes. -SK
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 22, 2005 Posted August 22, 2005 Heh...thanks SwingKid...haven't gotten my hands on an Su-25T yet. ;) Lots of MiG-15s, 17s, and L-39s though. :cool:
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 27, 2005 Posted August 27, 2005 Sorry to come back to this again, but, are you talking about the RL Su-25T or the LOMAC version?
zaGURUinzaSKY Posted August 27, 2005 Author Posted August 27, 2005 FighterOPS are going to have differential brake axis and moving pedals too, I hope LO staff will do it too.. Robbie.
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 27, 2005 Posted August 27, 2005 In the interest of realism, hopefully, any future addition of this capability would only be on aircraft that have brakes on the pedals IRL. Since there are going to be more sims based on Russian aircraft, ThrustMaster or CH should start working on a stick with a brake handle on the front. ;)
AndyHill Posted August 27, 2005 Posted August 27, 2005 Having the brakes on an axis would allow the user to put it on any controller he wants. Building a brake llever on the stick would be possible. _________________________________________________________ Lock on MUST have toe-brake functionality with differential braking! My blog full of incoherent ramblings on random subjects: https://anttiilomaki.wordpress.com/
SwingKid Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Sorry to come back to this again, but, are you talking about the RL Su-25T or the LOMAC version? Real Su-25. I assume (T) is the same. -SK
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Thanks for the diagram, SK. :icon_supe Now I can see the actuators attached to the pedals. I wonder if they're doing this in future aircraft as well...it sure does make maneuvering in tight spaces on the ramp a whole lot easier, as opposed to the traditional hand brake.
SwingKid Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 I wonder if they're doing this in future aircraft as well... I think it has something to do with the Su-25 not having afterburners, and thus not requiring such strong braking, so you can use conventional hydraulically-powered brakes with an "axis" range of motion. Su-27 and MiG-29 need stronger brakes that are pneumatically actuated, you need to open and close a pneumatic pressure valve and thus don't have such precise control. You can often hear the metallic clank of the pneumatic valve opening when the aircraft starts to taxi. -SK
britgliderpilot Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Just to confirm what another member thought was true, Russian aircraft do not have toe brakes. Differential braking is accomplished by moving the rudder pedals and squeezing the brake lever which is mounted on the front of the stick. ;) A little clarification: http://www.flightjournal.com/articles/su27/su27_4.asp According to this article, the Su27 does . . . although the MiG29 does not. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v121/britgliderpilot/BS2Britgliderpilot-1.jpg
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Well...this can be done without a hand-operated brake lever. It all depends on what kind of system the mechanical actuator is controlling, it can be hydraulic and/or pneumatic. ;) L-39s don't have AB either, but they still use the hand brake, and they're a bit harder to maneuver in tight spaces than aircraft with toe brakes.
Trident Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 Yup, that was the source I had in mind when I made my claim about the Flanker, but I couldn't remember where to find the article. Thanks for reminding me ;)
Guest IguanaKing Posted August 28, 2005 Posted August 28, 2005 A little clarification: http://www.flightjournal.com/articles/su27/su27_4.asp According to this article, the Su27 does . . . although the MiG29 does not. Thanks Brit, I was wondering about that, since I don't see a brake lever on the Su-27s stick either. The hand-operated brake lever IS, however, a traditional method in Eastern aircraft. I'm not sure if its a MiG vs. Sukhoi thing, or if it just depends on the size/weight of the aircraft.
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