Threshor Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Trying to get my brain around this and maybe making it harder than it is. JTAC gives me, as an example, an attack heading 100 - 320. Is the 100 my heading to target or the degrees from the target? Is the 320 a range between 100 or is this another attack heading from the other direction or an offset? Generally I will just fly to the target at heading 100. Also, on some created JTAC missions, after setting up attack and you get the TGP set on target I have to then make HUD SOI and hold TMS UP LONG to get the diamond mark to move on to the target so I can visually find target. This doesn't even look like the right command from the manual. But it works. Win7 64bit/i7-5930K@4.2/HYPERX32GBDDR4@2800/ASUSX99PRO/2GTX980ti6GB/ZALMAN9900/TIR5/3CH+Saitekpedals/500GBSSD+3THD/3x28"Hanns-G5760x1200:pilotfly:
jazjar Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 O.K, do not take my word for granted, but I think that 320-100 means ( think 360=north 180=south etc..) that the JTAC wants you to make your approach to the target so that when you are lined up with the target with your nose facing him, your heading tape should read a three digit number BETWEEN 320-100 degrees. Just my opinion. You are not making it hard, just being inquisitive and asking in the right place ;) . [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
gtxc2001 Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Doctrinally the 9 line passed by the JTAC should be in the following order: 1. Initial Point (e.g. Chevy) 2. Heading from IP to target in degrees magnetic and offset (usually used if JTAC wants you to one side or the other of the line directly from IP to target. For example, if heading to target is 090, but final attack heading is 135-225, you have to offset left) 3. Distance in from IP to target in nautical miles to the nearest tenth (e.g. 8.3) 4. Elevation on feet MSL 5. Target Description 6. Target Location 7. Target Mark 8. Location of nearest friendly units in cardinal direction from the target and distance in meters 9. Egress instructions Remarks/Restrictions: This is where the JTAC passes amplifying info, to include the all important Time on Target (TOT), Designator to Target Line (to ensure you are in the laser basket of laser guided munitions) and final attack heading, among other things. The final attack heading is usually a range of headings, and expresses the allowable headings for you to fly towards the target prior to ordnance release. If your final attack heading is 135-225, then your nose MUST be pointed between those two heading to get cleared hot (in real life, anyway).
RIFLE_JTAC_TRAINING Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Fellas, The above remarks are true. For more on the ground truth please search for (J-Fires). The J-Fires is a derivative of the Joint publications on Close Air Support (CAS). Here you will find everything you need regarding the JTAC and Pilot relationship regarding weapons release authority and air stack guidance. Best. HAWG 63 My CAS (Close air support) JTAC Channel: RIFLE - YouTube RIFLE's Discord: https://discord.gg/cmDCrr4Z2g Publications JTAC Bible (see/know chapter #5) https://fas.org/irp/doddir/dod/jp3_09_3.pdf J-FIRE pocket guide (Don't do battle without it!) BK2 (fas.org)
Threshor Posted February 1, 2011 Author Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks guys for clearing that up. I'm using the hook on the TAD's page and the HSI to help me with getting on the correct line but there maybe other things that could be done with the instruments besides just visual reference. Win7 64bit/i7-5930K@4.2/HYPERX32GBDDR4@2800/ASUSX99PRO/2GTX980ti6GB/ZALMAN9900/TIR5/3CH+Saitekpedals/500GBSSD+3THD/3x28"Hanns-G5760x1200:pilotfly:
nomdeplume Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Also, on some created JTAC missions, after setting up attack and you get the TGP set on target I have to then make HUD SOI and hold TMS UP LONG to get the diamond mark to move on to the target so I can visually find target. This doesn't even look like the right command from the manual. But it works. In beta 4 the TGP diamond on the HUD is placed incorrectly, generally some ways above the actual target. What you're doing doesn't really make any sense to me, but near as I can figure, if you hook the target triangle on the TAD and make it your SPI, use CHINA HAT FWD LONG to slew all to the SPI, then use TMS UP LONG on the HUD you'll be making the HUD the SPI and the TGP will re-slew to whatever's being designated on the HUD. Maybe that corrects the TGP diamond being mis-aligned? Never tried it...
Shake3000 Posted February 1, 2011 Posted February 1, 2011 Thanks guys for clearing that up. I'm using the hook on the TAD's page and the HSI to help me with getting on the correct line but there maybe other things that could be done with the instruments besides just visual reference. I use the course marker on the HSI.
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