Notification to all Su-27 FC2 pilots

[FLANKERATOR]

Dear all,

 

Below is a link I am inviting you all to check asap:

 

LINK : http://www.knaapo.com/eng/products/military/su-27sk.wbp

It's from KNAAPO's official website, Knaapo for your information is The only Russian enterprise producing single- and double-seat variants of the Su-27 family warplanes.

 

This paragraph is coming from the features and capabilities of the Su-27S/SK which we are supposed to be flying in FC2:

"Su-27SK can carry up to six R-27R1 (R-27ER1) air-to-air medium-range missiles with semi-active radar homing heads, up to two R-27T1 (R-27ET1) heat-seeking medium-range missiles, and up to six RVV-AE medium-range active radar-homing missiles and six R-73E short-range heat-seeking missiles."

For your information RVV-AE is the name of the new upgrading program based on the R-77 missile, the same one which is simulated in FC2, so yes we are talking about the same missile.

 

Now my question is simple, why on earth R-77 is forbidden on the Su-27S/SK in FC2 while KNAAPO, the one PRODUCING this aircraft attests this capability on THE OFFICIAL WEBSITE??

 

Allegations to balancing have already been mentioned, but let's make it clear for everybody, even with R-77's on Flankers in FC2, the F-15C would still have an advantage as using better radar and especially missiles with 15km more range.

 

Also, some will argue that only weak pilots "CRY" to get R77's on flankers because they don't know how to handle SARH missiles, I don't care about that as I know myself better than anyone else plus out of topic here. So attempts to divert discussion like that should simply be ignored.

Finally, I think that any BETTER source than KNAAPO's OFFICIAL WEBSITE denying the R-77 capability on the Su-27S/SK should logically be presented to the community to close this discussion once forever instead of mentioning mysterious highly classified documents that only ED has access to....but let's face it, what would be better than KNAAPO's OFFICIAL WEBSITE??

Thank you!

 

[Pilotasso]

Can you keep it on a single thread? plus this has been discussed to death.

[FLANKERATOR]

This has never been discussed as it should, plus we have a huge evidence this time, so that's new topic worthy.

[Pilotasso]

The powers that be said "its final" years ago in threads just like this, plus you missed Alfas post on the other thread.

[FLANKERATOR]

You're a dedicated F15 driver, so why do you find this thread so attractive?

[Pilotasso]

Fine, dont listen, the fate of this thread is predictable so good luck. :)

[FLANKERATOR]

You have already posted twice here without adding anything related to the matter, as for the thread itself I just hope it will end after clearing the question in a logical, transparent way which I believe are one of ED's traits.

[Falcon_S]

This topic is for SU-27 family pilots and ED. F15c loby is whole ED forum, so let us to have our corner here please and talk with arguments and without sarcasm.

 

So many times someone said here: "Why Su-27...?" and every time we get fight or GG arguments. Let`s talk about facts and please forget about 30 years old manual . Logical is UPGRADE in reality, so why nothing happens in FC about upgrade Su-27?

 

Who said: NO?

 

 

Nice scene at 0:26

 

T-10, B, S/SK, SKM, UB... etc etc... time line is long. Time is stoped only here.

Edited April 27, 2011 by Falcon_S

[FLANKERATOR]

This topic is for SU-27 family pilots and ED. F15c loby is whole ED forum, so let us to have our corner here please and talk with arguments and without sarcasm.

 

So many times someone said here: "Why Su-27...?" and every time we get fight or GG arguments. Let`s talk about facts and please forget about 30 years old manual . Logical is UPGRADE in reality, so why nothing happens in FC about upgrade Su-27?

 

Who said: NO?

 

 

Nice scene at 0:26

 

T-10, B, S/SK, SKM, UB... etc etc... time line is long. Time is stoped only here.

 

The one in this video is a SKM I believe when looking at the schemes, it has different cockpit than the S/SK version but both carry the Adder for sure.

 

+1 when saying that time is stopped for the Flanker in FC only !

[EtherealN]

but let's face it, what would be better than KNAAPO's OFFICIAL WEBSITE??

 

First off:

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Thanks.

 

Secondly: this is the internet generation in full! I mean, it's not like any company would ever embellish the truth in their PR documentation, is it? When a company says X on their website, this is the lord's own gospel and as solid as the laws of physics.

 

Well, not quite. I know something that's better than a PR website: the actual plane. And the manuals used by pilots of that actual plane. It so happens that Eagle Dynamics knows people in the military who have this weird job of being a "pilot" in strange organisations such as one called the "RuAF". ;)

 

That said: there's tonnes of threads on this topic - too many already - and this one isn't even on topic for the section it was posted on. If you want to discuss the real capabilities of the plane, find something more than a PR website and then discuss it in a thread in an appropriate section of the forum. Please.

 

Thread closed.