Landing Mission ILS Issue WITH 1.1.0.8 Missions

[Dark_Swordmaster]

When I first tried out this mission I was NOT using the 1.1.0.8 missions. I went through it just fine UNTIL I got to the part where I'm supposed to the adjust the ILS frequency from 1108.10 to 1110.30. At this point, as with other posts I've read having this issue, I was unable to adjust the frequency know no matter what I did. ILS on or off, mouse wheel scrolling or clicking and dragging, the frequency would not change no matter what.

 

So I hopped on Google and started looking, and after a short stint I was directed here to the official forums where I see thread upon thread upon thread upon thread with this EXACT same issue. All of which someone says, "Get the 1.1.0.8 training missions" and the OP replying with how that worked for them flawlessly.

 

So I grabbed the new missions. I renamed the old folders to back them up and moved them into a completely separate directory. I then put the new missions in and tried it again. After SEVERAL tries, I STILL cannot tune the ILS frequency, no matter how I try. ILS on or off, mouse wheel scrolling or clicking and dragging, the frequency will not change no matter what. So I'm coming here INCREDIBLY frustrated and confused. I couldn't save a track because when I hit ESC and clicked Quit it just went back to the training menu, never giving me the option to save the track. I checked the track folder in the "USER/Saved Games/..." folder and there was no automatically saved "last track."

 

So I have no idea what the hell to do at this point, but any advice would be appreciated.

 

Technical info:

 

Purchased from Steam, version 1.1.0.8, used the 32-bit system memory trick because it was crashing any time I tried to load any mission.

 

Win7 32 bit

nVidia 8800GT

2GB RAM

Intel C2Q6600

[EvilBivol-1]

Hi DS,

 

Most users reported that when they DO adjust to the frequency requested by the instructor, the training mission fails to proceed. This issue is fixed in the updated missions for 1108. However, you are saying that you are unable to adjust the frequency at all. Is that correct? I'm only aware of one other user having reported such a problem.

 

To save a track of your flight, you can open the mission through the Mission Editor. When you exit the mission, you will then be presented with a Debriefing screen, where you can save a track.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

Yes. The knob rotates, I can flip the power to it on and off. But the frequency itself physically does NOT change. It's not that it changes and fails to trigger the next step in the lesson, it simply does NOT change. At all.

[EvilBivol-1]

Sorry, I'm at a bit of a loss as to what may be the problem. One thing to try is maybe alt-tab out of the mission and back in to see if the memory dump will clear some kind of input or animation bug. We've also seen cases where users need to pause/unpause a couple of times to fix input issues.

[FSXHD]

I got the same issue over in the other thread. I'll try doing the Alt+Tab/Pause solution to see if it works. Please note that this issue is not just in the training mission, but in every single flight.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

Yes, I just tried out the navigation training mission and not only could I not adjust the frequency THERE either, but when I was told to move the piper down towards the bottom of the HUD and set a steerpoint (I believe) by holding "L. CTRL + Up arrow" nothing happened, holding it or tapping it, either control key. And I have NOT rebound a single key, they're all 100% default. The only control changes I have made were to edit deadzones and curves for my joystick.

 

 

So in this mission as well I literally cannot change the ILS one tiny bit, despite the knob rotating, and I also can't continue on in the training because it won't let me set whatever marker it wants me to set.

 

 

EDIT: Have bound ILS Mhz and Khz keys, going to try it that way. If that doesn't work, will my Steam key work with a download from the actual DCS site? Apparently the Steam version is absolutely chalk full of errors, reading the forums on both sites, most errors seem to be on the Steam version.

Edited July 14, 2011 by Dark_Swordmaster

[Dark_Swordmaster]

Okay, tried the landing training mission again.

 

Set a keybind for ILS Mhz up (LAlt+Up) and down (LAlt+Down) and ILS Khz up (LAlt+LCtrl+Up) and down (LAlt+LCtrl+Down) and when holding them, the knobs turn, but AGAIN, the frequency doesn't change. Holding the mouse button on the knob and moving it doesn't, and rolling the mouse wheel doesn't.

 

I alt-tabbed out and back in, and while that made it have to reload all of the cockpit textures, it didn't fix the ILS frequency issue, OR the other issue with the (LCtrl+Up) bind (which I checked, and is still bound). I paused and unpaused a few times, which did not fix it. I then spammed it making this stop-motion simulation, which still did not fix the issue.

 

Again, using 1.1.0.8 missions.

 

 

Recorded a track by playing the mission from the editor and the track is 7MB, which is too large to host on this site.

 

Are you able to download from this link? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/2081268/OMGSOFRUSTRATING.trk

Edited July 14, 2011 by Dark_Swordmaster

[EvilBivol-1]

Are you able to download from this link? https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/OMGSO...trk?w=a95c25d6

Negative, asks me to log in.

 

DS, FSXHD pointed out above that this problem exists in all missions, not just the training missions. Can you confirm if this also the case for you? At the very least, we should then move this problem out of the training missions section and into the input problems section.

 

Unfortunately, I really am not sure what to suggest, other than a clean re-install of the sim perhaps.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

Try it again. I changed the link.

[EvilBivol-1]

Thanks, the track worked fine. Unfortunately, in my game, the ILS panel works correctly and the frequencies are moved as you turn the knobs. I was testing using the publicly released 1.1.0.8 version. I'm now downloading the Steam version as well and will check there once it's installed.

 

Did we confirm if your game version is up to date? You should have a version number if you open the About/Game Credits function in the ME.

 

It looks to me like there is something wrong with a cockpit script file somewhere, perhaps related to the game version. I'll see what it looks like on my Steam version, but for now I would suggest a fresh install and update from Steam.

Edited July 14, 2011 by EvilBivol-1

[EvilBivol-1]

You could also try downloading the full 1108 version from the DCS site instead of the Steam version.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

I doesn't work in other missions. I'll check the version, but if it's correct I'll likely grab it from the DCS site anyway. As I said, the Steam version seems to be VERY problematic.

 

 

 

Version is 1.1.0.8.

Edited July 14, 2011 by Dark_Swordmaster

[Dark_Swordmaster]

Uninstalled the Steam version. Downloaded the 1.1.0.8 version from the DCS site. Installed it, got rid of the training missions and put in the new versions of them.

 

Works. Flawlessly.

 

So something is VERY VERY VERY messed up with the Steam version of the game.

[EvilBivol-1]

Glad you got it working. FYI, your track still plays back correctly in my Steam version (except I don't see the mouse cursor). Not saying you did anything wrong, but I suspect a fresh install of the Steam version would have probably worked as well.

[Dark_Swordmaster]

I don't get this tutorial. I set the HSI course to 130, but when I'm headed towards the runway, the HSI is not aligned at all. I head to the final approach point and get the training tip that I should decent to 2,500 between 230 and 250 knots. When I DO descend down to 2,500 and keep it between 230 and 250, I'm told I should turn towards the glidescope, and it NEVER lines up, regardless of my heading towards the runway. I then get yelled at that I'm below the glidescope and should gain altitude to line up on the glidescope. So I get up to 3,000 and climb even further, but never intercept the glide scope, so I'm never given the next tip. Eventually I just give up and put down the gear and flaps and start an approach. So far I've overshot and ballooned over the runway every time except this last time, in which I put it down hard at 170knots halfway off the runway. How I didn't lose it I don't know, but I managed to land and survive. It was at this point, due to barely intercepting the glidescope when I touched down, the tutorial continued on, and I was told to contact the tower for request for landing. I couldn't do this, due to having already landed, so at that point I was thoroughly stuck in this tutorial.

 

What am I doing wrong?

[EvilBivol-1]

It's normal for your HSI to be a few degrees off to the right. That's the difference between the true and magnetic headings for the runway. Your goal is go have the CDI (center needle) and course needle lined up in the center of the HSI, but they will both show a few degrees to the right of the runway heading when you're lined up. You can adjust for this by setting the HSI to something like 127 degrees (but only after getting past the step that asks for 130).

 

As for altitude, the actual glideslope intercept altitude varies depending on how far you are from the airfield. Since the training mission has no way of knowing exactly where you will be making the final turn, it takes a conservative low-end of the likely altitude at 2500 ft. This way as you near the runway, you're sure to intercept the glideslope in case you came in low. If you come in high, you will never intercept the glideslope as it gets lower the closer you are to the runway.

 

You can do one thing at a time - first complete the turn to line up with the runway so that your HSI needles are together. Then adjust for altitude.

 

Here is a track of me flying the mission:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35318412/EB-landing.trk

Edited July 15, 2011 by EvilBivol-1

[WildBillKelsoe]

When I first tried out this mission I was NOT using the 1.1.0.8 missions. I went through it just fine UNTIL I got to the part where I'm supposed to the adjust the ILS frequency from 1108.10 to 1110.30. At this point, as with other posts I've read having this issue, I was unable to adjust the frequency know no matter what I did. ILS on or off, mouse wheel scrolling or clicking and dragging, the frequency would not change no matter what.

 

So I hopped on Google and started looking, and after a short stint I was directed here to the official forums where I see thread upon thread upon thread upon thread with this EXACT same issue. All of which someone says, "Get the 1.1.0.8 training missions" and the OP replying with how that worked for them flawlessly.

 

So I grabbed the new missions. I renamed the old folders to back them up and moved them into a completely separate directory. I then put the new missions in and tried it again. After SEVERAL tries, I STILL cannot tune the ILS frequency, no matter how I try. ILS on or off, mouse wheel scrolling or clicking and dragging, the frequency will not change no matter what. So I'm coming here INCREDIBLY frustrated and confused. I couldn't save a track because when I hit ESC and clicked Quit it just went back to the training menu, never giving me the option to save the track. I checked the track folder in the "USER/Saved Games/..." folder and there was no automatically saved "last track."

 

So I have no idea what the hell to do at this point, but any advice would be appreciated.

 

Technical info:

 

Purchased from Steam, version 1.1.0.8, used the 32-bit system memory trick because it was crashing any time I tried to load any mission.

 

Win7 32 bit

nVidia 8800GT

2GB RAM

Intel C2Q6600

 

same here bud!!! I can't get the instructor to speak once I set the ILS freq to 110.30

 

I think the one frequency you do before that is the ATC radio frequency on the VHF panel. Can't remember it exactly (even though I played it today).

 

I was at 6000 + feet, 5 miles from touchdown, so I lowered thrust, gear down, couldnt see the flaps lever, nose down and descended with brakes open. In the mission before that (Nav), my MFCDs went white all of a sudden as I performed a steep dive. I flicked the CICU to off, then on, and it worked (no worries).

 

Thing is, both missions need revision by the testers team.

 

P.S. My version is DCS's, not Steam's

Edited July 23, 2011 by WildBillKelsoe
clarify that my version is DCS's, not Steam

[Emmerichs]

Same ILS Freq problem

 

I've just begun working my way through the training missions and have the same problem as the earlier poster who couldn't adjust the right hand frequency dial on the ILS panel. I can set 110 with the left knob, but the right knob, which the mouse sees as a flip switch instead of a knob you can rotate, does nothing. It makes a clicking sound and looks like it turns, but the numbers don't change. This is a brand new install of the latest version (1.1.0.9) downloaded from DCS.

 

Since I can't adjust the ILS to the correct frequency, the instruction simply stops. Very frustrating as this is an otherwise fantastic simulator and I want to get on with it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[Ironmaiden171717]

I am having an ILS problem but the KHz knowb does not turn. The MHz knob turns and changes the frequency correctly but when i try to turn the other knob it can only turn the volume which is just underneath the knob. I cannot seem to actually select the upper knob to change the decimal number of the frequency. Nobody else seems to be having this problem.

[Anhedral]

I have exactly the same problem. My mouse will move only the volume knob. Lft and right mouse click do either one way or the other on the volume, but no chance to change the frequency.

 

I am using version 1109 also.

Edited October 18, 2011 by Anhedral
Version info added

[The Islander]

I was having a bit of grief with this mission myself yesterday morning. I downloaded the fixed missions pack, even though I've got the latest game version installed, and I still got stuck at entering the ILS frequency.

 

Don't know if it helps you Anhedral but this is how I sorted it. If you read what the trainer says he tells you to scroll the MIDDLE MOUSE WHEEL to change the second dial to .30 if you just use left or rght mouse buttons all it does is change the volume on the dial.

 

It was so obvious but I was stuck there for ages.....doh!

 

Norrie..