GGTharos Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 I'm not questioning your source, but please show me this information. I'm astounded. (I'm not being sarcastic) For starters, you might want to try looking around tank.net. I've seen stuff a long time ago and I have not kept it indexed unfortuantely, sorry. What does it take to knock out the TIS equipment? What does it take to throw a track? Put a hole through the bottom or top? Damage the engine assembly and cooling? You can throw a track by driving the wrong way. A missile throwing your tracks is somewhat unlikely though (not much change to hit them by area ...). Damaging TIS etc is nifty and so on, but if it's a serious battle that tank still has the backup sight and isn't anything close to 'out of the fight'. The TIS is also a relatively small target. Damaging the engine requires a rear hit; rear armor is relatively light and easy to pierce for an AT weapon, so that would cause a mission kill. There are other reasons for tanks being destroyed (for example, M1's would have an auxiliary powerplant to drive turret and electronics because the gas turbine consumes as much fuel running at idle as it does driving the tank at full speed. So if the tank is in a defensive position, you may as well turn that engine off. That APU needed a fuel tank, and that was mounted on the rear of the turret where an RPG could hit it and have flaming fuel leak all over the engine exhaust/intake. That caused a few losses). Show me your information because that's fascinating news to me. Very curious! Check recent wars, but again it's an exercise you'll have to do yourself :) It just has been a while. In the majority of situations where tanks have faced combat, they were very difficult to destroy ... well, on one side, anyway. Outdated equipment fared like outdated equipment would. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
GGTharos Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) http://defense-update.com/analysis/lebanon_war_3.htm No doubt there's some bias there. A little more detail: http://www.israelmilitary.net/showthread.php?t=3749 Viper -- what about the "2006 Lebanon War"? Edited October 21, 2011 by GGTharos [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
RIPTIDE Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 lol no bias at all in the last link there either.... [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
GGTharos Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 There's plnety of bias in this type of account, but the battle pretty much speaks for itself. They drove their tanks right through a tank trap and continued with their assault. Some tanks were destroyed. That's all there is to it. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
adam12 Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 For starters, you might want to try looking around tank.net. I've seen stuff a long time ago and I have not kept it indexed unfortuantely, sorry. You can throw a track by driving the wrong way. A missile throwing your tracks is somewhat unlikely though (not much change to hit them by area ...). Damaging TIS etc is nifty and so on, but if it's a serious battle that tank still has the backup sight and isn't anything close to 'out of the fight'. The TIS is also a relatively small target. Damaging the engine requires a rear hit; rear armor is relatively light and easy to pierce for an AT weapon, so that would cause a mission kill. There are other reasons for tanks being destroyed (for example, M1's would have an auxiliary powerplant to drive turret and electronics because the gas turbine consumes as much fuel running at idle as it does driving the tank at full speed. So if the tank is in a defensive position, you may as well turn that engine off. That APU needed a fuel tank, and that was mounted on the rear of the turret where an RPG could hit it and have flaming fuel leak all over the engine exhaust/intake. That caused a few losses). Check recent wars, but again it's an exercise you'll have to do yourself :) It just has been a while. In the majority of situations where tanks have faced combat, they were very difficult to destroy ... well, on one side, anyway. Outdated equipment fared like outdated equipment would. I'm no stranger to research :) But damn, that does sound like a whole lot of searching through irrelevant stuff. If you do remember anything, even what keywords I might try in the search to maximize my chance of results, please post it.
GGTharos Posted October 21, 2011 Posted October 21, 2011 You can try some combination of ... armor penetration rha mm and variations thereof. You can add a specific tank if you like as well. Unfortunately, you'll still have to go through a LOT of stuff. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pit_Toyuwo Posted November 2, 2011 Posted November 2, 2011 About those MBT in blackshark... You can blow them up with your 30mm API. It will eat your ammo but eventually they catch fire. Tried it with M1A2 and it works. YES it is dangerous, YES it is dumb, YES it is not recommended but YES it works. Noticed that rear missile hits result more often in kills. On abrahms the top of the turret seems very prone to catching fire. But yeah, they're tough nuts.
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