javelin Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Hi all. Has anyone else noticed a change in the cyclic response in BS2 when compared to BS1. I have noted that the stick is less sensitive. You can test this out yourself by starting on the ground. Stick centered and trim reset. Then without trimming take off and fly as fast as you can. For me my joystick (Warthog) hits the forward stop before Max speed is achieved in level flight When I compared this with BS1 ,using exactly the same technique and aircraft weight etc, I found that the overspeed warning was triggered at about 3/4 forward stick. This was tested with an unmodified profile ie no joystick curve or sensitivity change. As a result BS2 feels overall less responsive for me. Has anyone else noticed the same and is there a fix? Many Thanks Usually the quietest person in the room is the one with the most experience and the loudest person is the one who just thinks he is.
Timm Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Hi There, with regards to the sensitivity of the shark, I'm using a Saitek X52 Pro and I am finding it hard to control her just the slightest movement on the stick she's a jumping and sliding all over, so any help in what setting I would need to add to controller her would be great. Timm “Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. It comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.” John Wayne
Nate--IRL-- Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Hi There, with regards to the sensitivity of the shark, I'm using a Saitek X52 Pro and I am finding it hard to control her just the slightest movement on the stick she's a jumping and sliding all over, so any help in what setting I would need to add to controller her would be great. Timm Try something like 7 Deadzone and 30 Curvature for both the X and Y axis. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Timm Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 Hi Nate, Thanks for that, tried those settings and made a slight improvement, but she tends to go nose up as soon as I increase on the Collective. in other words when I centre my stick and airborne that's when I have to push the stick forward to get a level fight. She's very stable left and right just very sensitive in forward flight. Timm “Tomorrow is the most important thing in life. It comes to us at midnight very clean. It's perfect when it arrives and it puts itself in our hands. It hopes we've learned something from yesterday.” John Wayne
Nate--IRL-- Posted November 16, 2011 Posted November 16, 2011 (edited) OK there are 2 issues at play here. 1)The Default Trim centre position is set for stability when on the ground. This trim position will have you nose high when in the Air. Trim Forward Slightly to correct this. This should allow to be level, in a stable hover. 2)You must trim and trim and the trim again in the KA-50, any change in the flight regime, especially speed, requires trim until the aircraft is stable. I suspect not using this enough is causing you the problem. The further you move your stick on your desk, the curvature makes it more and more sensitive. Less sensitive at the centre and more sensitive the further out you travel to the edges - you can see this behaviour in the options if you test the Curves. By using the trim liberally you should never have to move your stick that much forward, only very rarely should you have to move the stick to the edges of joystick travel, evasive manoeuvres etc. The trim/autopilot system requires some getting used to as the trim button actually does 2 things at once... have read of this, it is the best description I've read about it http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=36246&highlight=autopilot+trim Nate Edited November 16, 2011 by Nate--IRL-- Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
javelin Posted November 17, 2011 Author Posted November 17, 2011 Thanks Nate. I agree with everything you are saying and the more I fly BS2 the more I like it. I still think its harder to throw around than BS1 with the stabillities on but is now a very stable gun platform which I suppose is what its all about. Cheers Usually the quietest person in the room is the one with the most experience and the loudest person is the one who just thinks he is.
BMontgomery Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 I'm having a somewhat similar problem. I'm using an X52 Pro, and the collective seems to be incredibly over sensitive. The slightest nudge on the throttle produces an incredibly large change in the collective - seemingly from minimum to maximum. I'm using the same profile as I did on BS1, and I've checked in the options of BS2 to tune the Axes, which seem to be fine, as well as making sure that the controls are correctly assigned. Visually in the cockpit it's OK as well - fully advancing the throttle shows the collective fully advancing at the same rate, and vice versa. However, the control response is just crazy. I can't maintain any kind of level flight - I'm either climbing rapidly, or descending rapidly. Any ideas? Cheers, Ben
nomdeplume Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 Visually in the cockpit it's OK as well - fully advancing the throttle shows the collective fully advancing at the same rate, and vice versa. However, the control response is just crazy. I can't maintain any kind of level flight - I'm either climbing rapidly, or descending rapidly. I think you'll need to post a track for this one. Try doing an instant action mission so you start airborne and just fly around enough to demonstrate the problem, then quit the mission. You should get an option on the debrief page to save the track, so do that, and then use the 'go advanced' button here to get the full post interface and use the paperclick icon in the toolbar or the 'manage attachments' button below to attach it to your post.
StoOopiD Posted November 27, 2011 Posted November 27, 2011 try this. go into "in game" controls>axis commands clear the rudder bindings and fly rudderless once for me this fixes the sensitivity, trim and ffb. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Crosshair VIII hero wifi, 3800x w/ Enermax 360 AIO cooler (push-pull), 32gigs DDR4 Ripjaws 3600, Win 10 home on a Plextor PCI-E x4 3gb/s HD, EVGA 2070 Super FTW3 ultra+, Soundblaster Z Rift S, M$FFB2, CH Pro throttle, Saitek pedals BS2, A10C, P51D, SPITFIRE, FC3, Uh-1H, F86, Mi-8MTV2, SA342, MIG21-bis, AV8BNA, F14, F16, FA-18C, SUPERCARRIER
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