Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) hi , the hover in bs 2 1.1.1.1 doesn't hover like stated in the manual , the helo fly without automatic correction , reproducing this bug is trivial in the manual 10-30 Hover To hover automatically over a ground-point after decelerating to near-zero airspeed, you can engage HOVER mode using the following procedure: Set the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИЕ” (ROUTE - DESCENT) switch to the neutral position. Press the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) button on the cyclic and this will illuminate the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) light on the overhead panel. The helicopter will then stabilize above the hover point; radar altitude stabilization mode will engage; and the “Нрв СТАБ” (RALT HOLD) light will illuminate on the overhead panel. If there is any deviation from the initial hover point, the helicopter will automatically return to its initial position. When HOVER mode is enabled, the following flight indications are provided: On the Attitude and Director Indicator (ADI) – Deviation from the set altitude and lateral position at Hover initiation is indicated by the pitch and bank flight directors. On the HSI – Longitudinal and lateral deviation from the hover point is indicated. On the HUD – Hover area and hover symbol deviation from the set hover altitude; flight directors for bank, pitch and altitude; commands for return to the desired hover point at the desired altitude, and a ground speed vector in any direction are all provided. To disengage the Hover mode, press the HOVER button on the cyclic again and the HOVER light and all hover indications on the ADI, HSI, and HUD will be removed. hover altitude altitude doesn't work too,i have to correct the altitude myself... page 13–30 Hover Stabilization Mode The hover stabilization mode is used to ensure the maintenance of a constant position relative to a set hover point and then maintaining the set hover altitude using the radar altimeter. This mode is enabled after achieving a hover at an altitude of no less than 4 m and pressing the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) button on the cyclic stick. When the “МАРШРУТ-СНИЖЕНИЕ” (ROUTE-DESCENT) selector on the collective is in the neutral position, the altitude stabilization mode (“B”) is enabled automatically. After pressing the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) button, the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) and the “Нрв СТАБ” (Radar altitude stabilization) lights on the overhead warning panel will illuminate. Displayed on the HUD will be the current hover point and the desired hover zone; how far outside the current hover point is out of the hover zone indicates set hover deviation. On the ADI, the pitch and bank flight directors are enabled, indicating altitude deviation and lateral deviation. Longitudinal and lateral deviation are indicated on the HSI. This mode is disabled by pressing the “ВИСЕНИЕ” (HOVER) button again. Attitude (angular) Stabilization Mode Attitude, altitude, and airspeed stabilization modes are set by pressing the autopilot channel buttons (“K”, “T”, “H”, “B”) on the autopilot panel. Pressing the “ТРИММЕР” (TRIM) button on the cyclic stick cancels the autopilot’s position signals for bank (K), pitch (T) and yaw (H) and releasing it places the angular position of the helicopter in 3D space in memory. Pitch angle stabilization allows you to maintain airspeed corresponding to the given negative pitch angle. Squeezing the handle of the collective (which serves as a collective brake and altitude trim button) will cancel the altitude position signal; releasing it after moving the collective to a new position and flying to a new altitude will set the new altitude into memory and the system will maintain the new altitude. Either the barometric or radar altitude is stabilized according to the selected position of the “БАР - РВ” (Baro – Radar altitude) switch on the autopilot panel. However, if the switch is set to the “РВ” position with channel “В” enabled and the true altitude is more than 300 m, the autopilot will stabilize to the barometric altitude automatically. the helicopter is not stabilized when firing weapon especially canon: manual correction(not a bug then ?) Special Mode The special mode provides automatic stabilization of the helicopter during rocket launches and cannon fire by generating stabilizing pulses to the corresponding autopilot channels. The special mode is used automatically when firing rockets or the cannon. ->in night mission the smoke are black with light candle (from a10c)... so if friendly put green smoke and we mark target(trigger) with orange we can't know who is who :D the hud as background light (green or amber) that doesn't exist IRL , it make more difficult to spot target throught hud... ->auto turn lack authority(so not a bug) -> ADI is bugged Bank steering bar. This vertical, gray bar can move to the left and right and indicates the level of bank needed to align the aircraft on the correct steering course. If the aircraft is on course or no steering information is available, the bar will be centered. lol it has never moved :D Edited March 11, 2012 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 hi , the hover in bs 2 1.1.1.1 doesn't hover like stated in the manual , the helo fly without automatic correction , reproducing this bug is trivial in the manual 10-30 Operates correctly for me hover altitude altitude doesn't work too,i have to correct the altitude myself... page 13–30 Operates correctly for me, check your collective position, the Autopilot only has 20% control authority. the helicopter is not stabilized when firing weapon especially canon: manual correction It isn't meant to be stabilised completely, that would be imposible when firing the cannon, the AP does what it can - remember it only has 20% control authority ->in night mission the smoke are black with light candle (from a10c)... so if friendly put green smoke and we mark target(trigger) with orange we can't know who is who :D Things are dark at night, what is the problem? the hud as background light (green or amber) that doesn't exist IRL , it make more difficult to spot target throught hud... ->auto turn lack authority Yep, it only has 20% authority -> ADI is bugged I'll have to check this, but I'm fairly sure it does work. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Nate hover is broken with wind (try to reproduce ) 20% ok :) so no bug :) Things are dark at night, what is the problem? no in mission a 10c drop suu25 ( i don't remember the name) with my ka 50 (for everyone in multi) the smoke are black (not dark) everything is illuminated but not the smoke => another bug the laser rangefinder go mad when the countdown stop with dynamic Weather so ballistic go wrong and worse if you are not auto tracking the shkval go mad too Edited March 11, 2012 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 hover is broken with wind (try to reproduce ) 20% ok :) so no bug :) Yeah strong winds are a pain :) no in mission a 10c drop suu25 ( i don't remember the name) with my ka 50 (for everyone in multi) the smoke are black (not dark) everything is illuminated but not the smoke Ahhh Understood - I'll check it. => another bug the laser rangefinder go mad when the countdown stop with dynamic Weather so ballistic go wrong and worse if you are not auto tracking the shkval go mad too Not sure what that has to do with dynamic weather - could you provide more detail or a short track? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
PeterP Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) Fifou,... are you also using the collective brake function after you assigned a new pitch - and also a new altitude ? I know that this sometimes difficult to do on normals controller -. but when you have all AP on -especially "hold altitude" it's very important to hit the "collective brake" to assign a new altitude. that is - no offence, see::):) ...just asking in witch exactly AP state you are... Edited March 11, 2012 by PeterP
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Fifou,... are you also using the collective brake function after you assigned a new pitch - and also a new altitude ? I know that this sometimes difficult to do on normals controller -. but when you have al AP on -especially "hold altitude" it's very important to hit the "collective brake" to assign a new altitude. that is - no offence, see::):) ...just asking in witch exactly AP state you are... Oops I forgot about that, thanks P. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 Fifou,... are you also using the collective brake function after you assigned a new pitch - and also a new altitude ? I know that this sometimes difficult to do on normals controller -. but when you have al AP on -especially "hold altitude" it's very important to hit the "collective brake" to assign a new altitude. that is - no offence, see::):) ...just asking in witch exactly AP state you are... yeah i use collective brake :) but it lack authority ?sometime it's absurd ,trying to reproduce flight director off member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
PeterP Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 Sorry :P I'm out of this discussion.... I use a FFB stick wit a collective that replicates exactly the behaviour of the KA-50 . -- and I have none of your problems. Point.
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 Sorry :P I'm out of this discussion.... I use a FFB stick wit a collective that replicates exactly the behaviour of the KA-50 . -- and I have none of your problems. Point. lucky man i need good ffb stick for bs :) you made yourself a cougar with sidewinder2 ffb mod if i remember :joystick: member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
PeterP Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 lucky man i need good ffb stick for bs :) you made yourself a cougar with sidewinder2 ffb mod if i remember :joystick: collective: KA-50 collective: another picture-tale stick: Two MS FFB2 with Cougar Grip
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 collective: KA-50 collective: another picture-tale stick: Two MS FFB2 with Cougar Grip ms ffb2 the best?in the market member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 track(2 week ago) where the laser go mad crash. i try to reproduce the bug without success weird bug but it was obvious in solo and multiplayer member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
PeterP Posted March 11, 2012 Posted March 11, 2012 (edited) ms ffb2 the best?in the market I cant say that's it is the best.. - it is the only one. The logitech g940 lacks of just of proper firmware that would make it as good as a MSFFBS... Fact is that the MSFFBS doesn't 'interprets' FFB command - it just executes them....!...-just don't try to mess with DirectX - something logitech seems to not understand. Edited March 11, 2012 by PeterP
Migow Posted March 11, 2012 Author Posted March 11, 2012 found out laser bug i will upload (tomorrow) track member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) night smoke bug the 2 smokes on the right should be orange in night mission with candle light (first pic) suu25(a10c) Edited March 18, 2012 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 other smoke bug with fog member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Migow Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 laser bug laserbug3.trk member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 laser bug [ATTACH]63938[/ATTACH] What time is the bug in that track? And what is the bug? Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) What time is the bug in that track? And what is the bug? Nate move time until i target at 2.5km when i 'm targeting target look the range information (it become wrong )when the countdown is off and the X , the shkval try to move byitself when not in autotracking and laser countdown off the canonn and rocket ballistic become hard to use , same thing with shkval i have to fight against it (single seater already bad but with that this is hell) Edited March 18, 2012 by Fifou265 member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 Ah ok that is known. In the meantime reset the Shkval and re target. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 18, 2012 Author Posted March 18, 2012 Ah ok that is known. In the meantime reset the Shkval and re target. Nate ok thx what's the cause of this bug? member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 18, 2012 Posted March 18, 2012 ok thx what's the cause of this bug? No idea - but it appears related to the targeting computer being starved of correct range data. Quite often re-lasing a spot on the ground will feed fresh data to the computer and fix the problem. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 19, 2012 Author Posted March 19, 2012 game bug or irl ?:) member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
Nate--IRL-- Posted March 19, 2012 Posted March 19, 2012 DCS bug. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Migow Posted March 20, 2012 Author Posted March 20, 2012 DCS bug. Nate :cry: member of 06 MHR / FENNEC Mi-24P
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