su27 audio broken

[diveplane]

Su27FrontEngine.ogg not playing back =broken atm. beta build 1.1.2.1

[zzzspace]

It's not just the Su-27 FrontEngine, most of the fast jet aircraft have this same problem:

 

(from a post I made at LockOnFiles yesterday)

 

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I found a significant issue with the sound-engine:

 

I began to suspect a serious problem with the FrontEngine sounds in DCS:WORLD, they didn't seem to be working, no matter how you adjusted the PlaneFrontEngine.sdef file settings.

 

So I went back to all vanilla-standard .sdef config files and to the standard .wav and .ogg files.

 

But I removed all wind and turbulence sounds and Afterburner, AroundEngine and Back Engine sounds, for all aircraft.

 

That left just the FrontEngine sound in place on all aircraft, with which to generate engine sound.

 

I built a mission with lots of different aircraft in it and tested it for sound.

 

Sure enough, no FrontEngine sounds are emitted by most of the aircraft!

 

Some do work, however, and these were;

 

All civil jet aircraft seem to be OK.

All propeller driven transports and Tu95 etc., seemed to work OK.

All jet transports, tankers, AEW, and B-52 FrontEngine seem to work OK.

 

All other jet bomber FrontEngines do not work.

All jet fighter FrontEngines do not work.

All jet strike/attack aircraft FrontEngines do not work.

 

There are no engines sounds coming from these aircraft, whatever.

 

The Su-33 is also emitting a strange noise in this state, sort of like a warbling intermittent APU type sound, especially when in the circuit to land. I checked it a second time and it still did it. It seems to be is the airbrake is engaging and disengaging, several times per second (but not long enough to visably open it ), continuously. I found the F-5 did it sometimes too, but not as much as the Su-33 does. The Su-27 and Su-30 didn't seem to do it.

[zzzspace]

It's not just the Su-27 FrontEngine, most of the fast jet aircraft have this same problem:

 

The Su-33 is also emitting a strange noise in this state, sort of like a warbling intermittent APU type sound, especially when in the circuit to land. I checked it a second time and it still did it. It seems to be is the airbrake is engaging and disengaging, several times per second (but not long enough to visably open it ), continuously. I found the F-5 did it sometimes too, but not as much as the Su-33 does. The Su-27 and Su-30 didn't seem to do it.

 

 

The issue I discovered with the Su-33's airbrake use still exists, but this time I've found the Su-27 is doing it too - in the same way as I've originally described above.

 

It appears the FrontEngine sounds also still do not work.

 

Could someone please look into these bugs.

[zzzspace]

I've now seen the F/A-18C, F-15C and Su-25T doing this same thing, the fluttering, "will I or won't I", indecisive rapid-fire use of airbrakes.

 

It seems to occur at lower speeds, when the Ai is trying weally, weally hard to maintain a certain speed range a little too tightly, so it keeps on adjusting, until it ... well, ... sometimes it doesn't stop.

 

We need the Ai cruise control a tad less obsessive about its allowable speed-range modulation.

[Corrigan]

It's not just the Su-27 FrontEngine, most of the fast jet aircraft have this same problem:

 

(from a post I made at LockOnFiles yesterday)

 

--

 

I found a significant issue with the sound-engine:

 

I began to suspect a serious problem with the FrontEngine sounds in DCS:WORLD, they didn't seem to be working, no matter how you adjusted the PlaneFrontEngine.sdef file settings.

 

So I went back to all vanilla-standard .sdef config files and to the standard .wav and .ogg files.

 

But I removed all wind and turbulence sounds and Afterburner, AroundEngine and Back Engine sounds, for all aircraft.

 

That left just the FrontEngine sound in place on all aircraft, with which to generate engine sound.

 

I built a mission with lots of different aircraft in it and tested it for sound.

 

Sure enough, no FrontEngine sounds are emitted by most of the aircraft!

 

Some do work, however, and these were;

 

All civil jet aircraft seem to be OK.

All propeller driven transports and Tu95 etc., seemed to work OK.

All jet transports, tankers, AEW, and B-52 FrontEngine seem to work OK.

 

All other jet bomber FrontEngines do not work.

All jet fighter FrontEngines do not work.

All jet strike/attack aircraft FrontEngines do not work.

 

There are no engines sounds coming from these aircraft, whatever.

 

The Su-33 is also emitting a strange noise in this state, sort of like a warbling intermittent APU type sound, especially when in the circuit to land. I checked it a second time and it still did it. It seems to be is the airbrake is engaging and disengaging, several times per second (but not long enough to visably open it ), continuously. I found the F-5 did it sometimes too, but not as much as the Su-33 does. The Su-27 and Su-30 didn't seem to do it.

 

I'm sure you've thought of this already, but you did make sure none of the jets were supersonic, right? If they are, they would not be heard from the front (assuming the camera is at a fixed distance from the jet, like for the F2 external view).

[zzzspace]

I'm sure you've thought of this already, but you did make sure none of the jets were supersonic, right? If they are, they would not be heard from the front (assuming the camera is at a fixed distance from the jet, like for the F2 external view).

 

This is what I said in the post above yours:

 

"It seems to occur at lower speeds, when the Ai is trying weally, weally hard to maintain a certain speed range a little too tightly,"

 

Plus the Su-25T doesn't do supersonic too well. :)

[Jona33]

This is what I said in the post above yours:

 

"It seems to occur at lower speeds, when the Ai is trying weally, weally hard to maintain a certain speed range a little too tightly,"

 

Plus the Su-25T doesn't do supersonic too well. :)

 

He meant the not hearing the sound from the front.

[zzzspace]

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[zzzspace]

He meant the not hearing the sound from the front.

 

What?!

 

If the aircraft were SLOW at the time of observation, why would they be supersonic, especially if one of them is not a supersonic jet?

 

I think I'm writing English here ... I know exactly what he meant ... do you?

[zzzspace]

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[Jona33]

What?!

 

If the aircraft were SLOW at the time of observation, why would they be supersonic, especially if one of them is not a supersonic jet?

 

I think I'm writing English here ... I know exactly what he meant ... do you?

 

You have two problems, not hearing the Engine's from the front and the strange speedbrake problem, I've not seen anything saying Jets are slow when you can't hear the engines from the front.

[zzzspace]

You have two problems, not hearing the Engine's from the front and the strange speedbrake problem, I've not seen anything saying Jets are slow when you can't hear the engines from the front.

 

The Su-25T is not a supersonic aircraft.

 

Why this obvious fact is not sufficently clear is beyond me. The post I made, second from the top of the first page, is quite detailed and very specific about what was checked.

 

Every fixed wing aircraft in DCS was checked.

 

Most people would tend to presume that if I checked a B-52, and A-50 etc, they probably weren't supersonic.

 

This is what I said:

All civil jet aircraft seem to be OK.

All propeller driven transports and Tu95 etc., seemed to work OK.

All jet transports, tankers, AEW, and B-52 FrontEngine seem to work OK.

 

All other jet bomber FrontEngines do not work.

All jet fighter FrontEngines do not work.

All jet strike/attack aircraft FrontEngines do not work.

 

Do you think I put them all in a mission set to 800 knots and just didn't notice they were supersonic or something? :D

 

BTW: Nate repeated this test and found the same thing. :P

[Corrigan]

This is what I said in the post above yours:

 

"It seems to occur at lower speeds, when the Ai is trying weally, weally hard to maintain a certain speed range a little too tightly,"

 

Plus the Su-25T doesn't do supersonic too well. :)

 

Yes, but my comment was aimed at the problem with the frontengine sound, not sporadic speedbrake usage.

[zzzspace]

Yes, but my comment was aimed at the problem with the frontengine sound, not sporadic speedbrake usage.

 

Yes I KNOW that for god's sake, and that is exactly why I said what I said. They were BOTH detected during the very same testing.

 

Scheesh!

 

You could check yourself.

[Corrigan]

I would humbly suggest losing the attitude. Thanks :)

If you knew my comment was about sound and not speedbrake usage, why did you request my post moved? It is clearly thread-relevant.

 

In any case, supersonic aircraft are not the issue, as you're saying.

[zzzspace]

I would humbly suggest losing the attitude. Thanks :)

If you knew my comment was about sound and not speedbrake usage, why did you request my post moved? It is clearly thread-relevant.

 

In any case, supersonic aircraft are not the issue, as you're saying.

 

Sorry, it's just that you're question just comes accross as quite rediculous to me.