Joe Johnson Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 Hi guys, I'm having big problems with the first mission of Georian Oil War campaign in the SU-25T. I take off and fly to the enemy group located near the beach. Scanning with the Shkval I spot the nearest air defence and engage it with a laser guided missile. At max range of the missile I fire and sometimes before the missile hits or short after I get shot down from some other air defence. I tried about ten different approaches...from the sea, from the land, from high altitude, low...almost always getting shot down at the first approach. One time I read the debriefing and it says Unit #31 or #29 (both Manpad) shot me down. So I decided to cheat and opened the mission in the mission planer to see where the enemy is. But there is no Unit #31 or #29!? No matter what I do or try I fail...dropping counter measures like hell does'n help, approaching from different directions and engaging the Manpads first...no luck. Then one time a Mig 21 shot me down... How can it be mastered? It is so difficult! Does anybody have a suggestion?? Maybe a track? Has somebody mastered this campaign (or the first mission)? I'm new to the SU-25, coming from the Shark. In the pit of the Shark I'm the king of the world but in the Toad it seems not doable... *frustrating* Thanks a lot! Intel Core i5 750 @ 4 GHz, 8GB Ram, ATI Radeon 5800, Saitek X52 HOTAS & Pedals, TIR 5, Wondows 7 64bit
Joe Johnson Posted June 12, 2012 Author Posted June 12, 2012 Ok, now I get it. I opened the mission in the mission EDITOR (not planer) and there are a lot of hidden units. Thats ok. But how am I supposed to do my CAS job when there are 20 air defences? I would have to scan the whole area with the Shkval to find and destroy them, before I could do CAS. That would take about two hours. Isn't it a failure in the mission creation? Shouldn't there be a SEAD package (or two)? One SU-25T (the wingman gets always shot down in the beginning) against a bunch of air defences with a task to support ground troups...ufff. When you don't know where the enemy units are you have no chance... How did you do it? Intel Core i5 750 @ 4 GHz, 8GB Ram, ATI Radeon 5800, Saitek X52 HOTAS & Pedals, TIR 5, Wondows 7 64bit
joey45 Posted June 12, 2012 Posted June 12, 2012 When you don't know where the enemy units are you have no chance... Use labels then. oh and don't go to low. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45
Togg Posted June 13, 2012 Posted June 13, 2012 (edited) For the SAM, you could use a Kh-29T which is a fire and forget missile (TV lock) so you can evade before being engaged by the SAM itself or a nasty MANPAD because you are too close. For the target, you can use the command which indicates the next target by a diamond on the HUD. Then you have just to slew the Shkval on it and guess what it is :) Edited June 13, 2012 by Togg [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] https://github.com/Togg-streamdeck/dcs
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