Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Hi, Not strickly a bug or problem but wasn't sure where else to post this. I have a 32bit Vista system with 4gb RAM Unfortunately not in any position to ugrade CPU etc but could possibly look to add more memory. Assuming I can (Toshiba satellite p300 laptop) will the programme benefit from it? (I know Windows has the 4gb issue) I only use BS2 (A10 frame rates are poor on my old system) in new DCSW 1.2.0 If memory increase wouldn't help - any other suggestions please to gain a few fps? I already have eveything on low or off and don't fancy messing with bios options. Kind regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 EDIT disregard I misread your post - no advantage of adding more memory in 32bit. Switch to Win7 - Gives a nice FPS boost compared to XP due to improvements in it base Display code for DirectX. And then you get to use all 4gb in tour system. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Nate, Thank you for the prompt reply - as always. Will look into it now. Assume though its a complete new clean install of OS (and subsequent DCSW etc) rather than being able to just upgrade the OS without reinstalling eveything? Regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Nate, Thank you for the prompt reply - as always. Will look into it now. Assume though its a complete new clean install of OS (and subsequent DCSW etc) rather than being able to just upgrade the OS without reinstalling eveything? Regards, Gary Apologies - I assumed you were on XP when I wrote that. Vista is OK, Vista 64bit is even better as it allows more memory to be used. You will get no benefit to moving to Win7. Note more memory will only aid in removing the times DCS must access the Disk. If you are using 4gb with everything on low - adding more memory is unlikely to help Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Sorry, a little confused now. To clarify, Adding more memory alone on a 32bit OS will not help at all? Will moving to Vista 64bit and keeping just 4gb aid any fps improvements? Will moving to Vista 64bit and adding memeory aid any fps improvements? Or will doing either or both the 64bit OS upgrade only improve loading times and not fps? Sorry to be a pain but if I'm going to spend c£100 today I want to be very sure its going to be worth it Thanks for your help with this btw Regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
PeterP Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Whatever you do - change to win 7 64bit and ditch Vista. Better memory/display management. Please use a search-machine to get the facts - and read more than only one source to build up a opinion!
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Sorry, a little confused now. To clarify, Adding more memory alone on a 32bit OS will not help at all? No Will moving to Vista 64bit and keeping just 4gb aid any fps improvements? see next commnet Will moving to Vista 64bit and adding memeory aid any fps improvements? Unless Windows is excessively swapping to disk running DCS, there will be no benefit Or will doing either or both the 64bit OS upgrade only improve loading times and not fps? unlikly to do either to be honest unless DCS is making windows swap to disk Sorry to be a pain but if I'm going to spend c£100 today I want to be very sure its going to be worth it Thanks for your help with this btw Regards, Gary Load a mission in DCS and observe the memory usage in Windows task manager - if memory is maxed out and there is excessive disk activity then memory will help - if not, keep your cash. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Nate, Peter, Thank you very much to both of you. (Oh how I wish just throwing £100 quid at the laptop would help lol) Regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Gents, Done the test and gutted!! Ran DCS and looked at memory and CPU useage. CPU running at 35% (Intel duo @ 2.27mhz) Memory running at 60% I'm guessing that means my bottleneck is the GPU (which is on board ATI HD 3470) which makes sense - but nothing I can do!!! Regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
Nate--IRL-- Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Could be the CPU too - DCS is very processor intensive. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
Gary Posted July 12, 2012 Author Posted July 12, 2012 Nate, Although with my current settings CPU is running at 35% I dont expect to be able to max anything out - just want a few more fps on current low settings. Trying to find latest graphic driver for the HD 3470 without any joy! Regards, Gary I5 - 1TB SSHD, 256 SSD - Nvidia 1070 - 16gb ram - CV1
ShuRugal Posted July 12, 2012 Posted July 12, 2012 Sorry, a little confused now. To clarify, Adding more memory alone on a 32bit OS will not help at all? that is correct. a 32-bit operating system has a hard-cap of 4 GB ram. The way 32-bit processor architecture works, a 32-bit machine cannot address more than 4 GB of RAM. Windows vista and 7 will see that the RAM is there, but a 32-bit OS is incapable of storing more than 4 GB of data within it.
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