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India are getting 40 MiG-29Ks in 2007. Russia offered updated 9-41 airframes but India went with the 9-31 airframes, they will be fully FBW with mechanical backups. A MiG-29KUB was also offered. The cockpit arrangement will look like the MiG-29M2 slightly stepped and not a like normal UB if it were to be made.

 

Not corrrect Cobra.

 

India have signed a contract for 12x MiG-29K (9-41) and 4x MiG-29KUB (9-47). So the version India ordered is indeed the 9-41 - as far as the airframe goes, indications are that it will differ from the 9-31 by the tailplanes as well as a larger section of the wings being foldable....to reduce space requirements for below deck storage onboard the smaller(than Kuznetsov) Admiral Gorshkov :) .

 

But you are right that the MiG-29KUB will resemble closely the already realised MiG-29M2.....this is "as per design" as the MiG-29K and MiG-29M developments always were two sides of the same effort and therefore have a very high degree of commonality between them.

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

JJ

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I did not realize that they went for the 9-41s in the end. I think I remember you telling me this before and I was trying to remember if they did or did not go with it.

 

And do they (India) not at least have options for up to 40 K/UBs?

 

Never mind, thats the F-15K order for Korea that I'm thinking of.

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There is something in the air...

 

You can just see Alfa grazing in a field somewhere . . . . all of a sudden, his ears prick up at some unheard sound far off in the distance. He raises his head, sniffs the air, and grins in glee at the appearance of a MiG29K thread . . . . .

 

Muuuh...

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

JJ

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I did not realize that they went for the 9-41s in the end. I think I remember you telling me this before and I was trying to remember if they did or did not go with it.

 

And do they (India) not at least have options for up to 40 K/UBs?

 

Never mind, thats the F-15K order for Korea that I'm thinking of.

 

Well I think they(India) do indeed have an option for more MiG-29Ks - the number they already ordered corresponds to one full squadron, so I could easily imagine they would need another for shorebased back-up/rotation. In addition there has been some talk about India´s planned indignious(sp.?) carrier designs also deploying the MiG-29K.....so in the end it could end up being far more than 40 units :)

 

Cheers,

- JJ.

JJ

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Well I'm glad India are on this spending spree. Otherwise we'd never get to see any advanced Russian fighters. What are they planning with those Su-30MKIs and MiG-29Ks.......hmmmm...I wonder........maybe if .....

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To my knowledge the Ka-50 have never been flyable before in any sim, that is surely one of the reasons.

Another might be that it is a true combat helicopter, with a vast (hopefully ;)) array of weaponry, the Hind is somewhat of a compromise with it's troop compartment.

 

I think that the Navalized MiG-29 version aren't really used... prototype stage?

Su-39 is the production designation of the Su-25T.

 

 

hello,

 

To my knowledge the KA-50 have been flyable before, and the game is FAIR STRIKE. A helicopter action/simulation featuring 6 flyable helicopters (AH-64A Apache, RAH-66 Comanche, PAH-2 Tiger, Ka-50 Hokum, Ka-52 Alligator, Ka-58 Black Ghost). 38 action-packed missions in Caribbean region, Eastern Europe, South-East Asia and the Middle East, hundreds of ground, naval and airborne objects. Multiplayer modes are another good chance to play with your friends.

 

here a pic. s21366_pc_29.jpg

N-Rafale-1.jpg

The Rafale in all its splendour, a fabulous bird!

 

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The situation with the MiG-29K was simple - Sukhoi was faster. They had already started production by the time the Soviet Union collapsed, and so the desicion was made to concentrate on the available Su-33. Which from a simming point of view is a pity, because the MiG-29K was probably the closest Russia came to operating a western-style multirole airframe until the Su-27SM recently ;)

 

Mig-29K Shipboard Fighter (izdeliye 9.31)

 

from Yefim Gordon:

 

... The Mig-29K prototype flew along the carrier's port side, judging the effect of the carriers's wake turbulence. Before making a real landing, Mikoyan, Sukhoi, and NII VVS pilots trained day after day, mastering the unfamiliar no-flare landing technique. The first conventional carrier landing in the Soviet Union was successfully accomplished at 1:46 PM by T10K-2(SU-27K). At 3:12 PM the Mig-29K followed suite, touching down somewhat more roughly; in fact, it appeared to onlookers that the aircraft dropped onto the deck like a gliding brick,( probably he badly calculated the distance before touchdown + a lack of experience, and maybe the sukhoi pilot was just more lucky that day.) the Mig-29K received the Nato code name Fulcrum-D.

 

The second prototype, 312 Blue(mig-29K), joined the flight-test program at its final stage. Besides flying, the final stage of the carrier's state acceptance trials included aerodynamic trials of the jet blast deflectors. The latter were a constant source of annoyance; not least because their water-cooling system had a propensity to explode when overheated, as demonstrated by the Su-27K on two occasions. Thus the Fulcrum-D never got the chance to complete its state acceptance trials. There was another reason for this, a rather absurd accident. In the 13th flight of the state acceptance trials program, NII VVS test pilot V. M. Kandaoorov landed normally after a 1.5 hour sortie and inadvertently worked the landing gear control switch, selecting gear up. Realizing his mistake, he immediately selected gear down, but it was too late. The retraction jacks and hydraulic lines burst and the aircraft sank onto its belly, suffering serious damage. While 311 Blue was undergoing repairs, the carrier departed for Novorossiysk and that was it. Finito.

 

But according to his source the Russian Navy give some serious thought to reviving the MIG-29K program.

 

In the early production of the SU-27 and Mig-29 and after a mock combat between them to evaluate their respective merits and drawbacks, the Russian pilots opinion was that, despite the su-27's FBW controls, pilot workload was greater than it the MIG-29.(not talking here the SMT,M2,K, or the Mig-29 OVT who have FBW.) The Fulcrum is well liked by service pilots of the Russian Air Force and the German MIG-29 proved well during mock combat against NATO F-15 and F-16 of the US Air Force who won most of the fights as the often found themselves shot down before they even got the Fulcrum on their radar screen!

 

After Post-Modification the German MIG-29 proved once more is merits in Italy april and may 1991 were it won all sessions of mock combat against various NATO fighters. Thus the Fulcrum gained the distinction of being the only soviet type to remain with the Luftwaffe after reunification.

N-Rafale-1.jpg

The Rafale in all its splendour, a fabulous bird!

 

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