LeadDoctor Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 I finding it a pain in the ass to refuel with the F-15C at the slow speed that the KC135 goes (170 knots). Tried upping the speed in the editor but no difference. Any thing I can do? AMD 955, Asus M4A79t, 12GB 1600 cas7 Mushkin red line and black line, EVGA 670 FTW, Samsung 840 SSD 250GB, Samsung spin point 620GB x3 extra storage.
GGTharos Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Yes, make sure you up the speed for the tanker orbit, not just the waypoints. Put it up to 315 KIAS. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
LeadDoctor Posted December 11, 2012 Author Posted December 11, 2012 Ah that's what I missed. That should help tons thank you. AMD 955, Asus M4A79t, 12GB 1600 cas7 Mushkin red line and black line, EVGA 670 FTW, Samsung 840 SSD 250GB, Samsung spin point 620GB x3 extra storage.
GGTharos Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 Use different tankers. F-15's can refuel at lower speeds but it's not comfortable. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Robin_Hood Posted December 11, 2012 Posted December 11, 2012 (edited) Check out ATP56, AAR Procedures. The appendices have optimum refueling parameters. For the KC-135, it gives: A-10C Alltitude: 15 000 ft IAS: 220 kts Mach: 0.48 F-15 Altitude: 30 000 ft IAS: 315 kts (just as GGTharos said) Mach: 0.82 Edited December 12, 2012 by Robin_Hood 2nd French Fighter Squadron
LeadDoctor Posted December 12, 2012 Author Posted December 12, 2012 Check out ATP56, AAR Procedures. The appendices have optimum refueling parameters. For the KC-135, it gives: A-10C Alltitude: 15 000 ft IAS: 150 kts Mach: 0.48 F-15 Altitude: 30 000 ft IAS: 315 kts (just as GGTharos said) Mach: 0.82 Is this optimum in DCS? AMD 955, Asus M4A79t, 12GB 1600 cas7 Mushkin red line and black line, EVGA 670 FTW, Samsung 840 SSD 250GB, Samsung spin point 620GB x3 extra storage.
GGTharos Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 KC-135 min speed for A-10's should be 220 IAS ... I'm not even sure it can remain in the air at 150. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
LeadDoctor Posted December 12, 2012 Author Posted December 12, 2012 KC-135 min speed for A-10's should be 220 IAS ... I'm not even sure it can remain in the air at 150. I think the A-10 would just be able to follow given their isn't a heavy load but if you had to pull up a little bit it would start falling just like the F-15 was doing at 170. AMD 955, Asus M4A79t, 12GB 1600 cas7 Mushkin red line and black line, EVGA 670 FTW, Samsung 840 SSD 250GB, Samsung spin point 620GB x3 extra storage.
St3v3f Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 I think the A-10 would just be able to follow given their isn't a heavy load but if you had to pull up a little bit it would start falling just like the F-15 was doing at 170. I think he was rather about the tanker, not the A-10. But seriously, I wouldn't want to do refueling the A-10 at 150 knots. It's hard enough at 180. Wouldn't it be best if the tanker was able to dynamically adjust his speed according to the type of aircraft that is coming for a connection? I assume this is what they do in reality. aka: Baron [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Robin_Hood Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Sorry guys, that's because I screwed up and misread. It should read 220 knots (150 (*100 ft) was the altitude)! Post edited ;) 2nd French Fighter Squadron
Druid_ Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 By using triggers it is possible within a mission to make the tanker orbit at different speeds depending n the aircraft he is refuelling. You would have to get creative though and have to create 2 different orbits (1 for a10s and another for f-15) and use a switch waypoint action to change between the 2. The condition to set a flag for the leave orbit and switch waypoint would have to be unit() in moving zone. Set a small zone around the tanker and you're good to go. Just make sure you don't have an a10 and a f-15 in the tanker moving zone at the same time! i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q
Robin_Hood Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 Or maybe a trigger via radio menu ? That's interesting, a tanker changing orbits depending on the receiving aircrafts. Sounds good. Just have to plan ahead, because if you're gonna do 15K/220KIAS for A-10C and 30K/315KIAS for F-15, the tanker may take some time switching between the two orbits 2nd French Fighter Squadron
GGTharos Posted December 12, 2012 Posted December 12, 2012 THat is a very good point. Now if it could be done with radio triggers for MP too that would be nice. Or better yet, have it be part of the refueling menu /or/ have it be part of the tanker logic ... you can create different tanker stations and it will fly to one or the other based on some factors :) By using triggers it is possible within a mission to make the tanker orbit at different speeds depending n the aircraft he is refuelling. You would have to get creative though and have to create 2 different orbits (1 for a10s and another for f-15) and use a switch waypoint action to change between the 2. The condition to set a flag for the leave orbit and switch waypoint would have to be unit() in moving zone. Set a small zone around the tanker and you're good to go. Just make sure you don't have an a10 and a f-15 in the tanker moving zone at the same time! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
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