VRS changed ??

[fjacobsen]

After 1.2.5 I noticed that it is very hard or rather impossible to enter Vortex ring stat (Settling with power).

 

I see this as a positive change, since I know froma German UH-1D pilot that in the real Huey it is also very hard to induce VRS.

 

The manual also tells:

 

3.1.9. Settling With Power (Vortex Ring State)

Settling with power is a condition of powered flight when the helicopter settles into its own main rotor downwash; this is also known as Vortex Ring State.

Conditions conducive to settling with power include a vertical, or nearly vertical, descent of at least 300 feet per minute with low forward airspeed. The rotor system must also be using some of the available engine power (from 20 to 100%) with insufficient power available to retard the sink rate. These conditions occur during approaches with a tailwind or during formation approaches when some aircraft are flying in the downwash of other aircraft.

 

I see no notice on this though in the Changelog for 1.2.5

 

 

Fjacobsen

[jay43]

If its not announced then it wasn't in the update this is whats called it just clicked with you.

If you were crashing a lot before and now you're not then placebo you just got better but didn't notice it just suddenly your muscle memory clicked.

[LuckyyyStrike]

If its not announced then it wasn't in the update this is whats called it just clicked with you.

If you were crashing a lot before and now you're not then placebo you just got better but didn't notice it just suddenly your muscle memory clicked.

 

yep, noticed the same thing with me. i think that you are getting a better feel for the chopper and it´s perfomance during maneuvers

[fjacobsen]

Why can I then hover at 2000 ft, dump collective down and get into -2000 ft/min add collective and then get into hover again with zero IAS ?

 

Also during approach I can get down below 20 kts IAS with -1000 ft/min without ever entering VRS ?

That was certainly a nogo in 1.2.4

 

 

Fjacobsen

[newbie2k]

Well, after the release of 1.2.5 I experimented a bit to see how mast bumping changed and due to my pretty aggressive flight style and sudden stops and turns while airborne I experienced a lot of vrs. So I cannot confirm that issue.

[Flagrum]

Why can I then hover at 2000 ft, dump collective down and get into -2000 ft/min add collective and then get into hover again with zero IAS ?

 

Also during approach I can get down below 20 kts IAS with -1000 ft/min without ever entering VRS ?

That was certainly a nogo in 1.2.4

 

 

Fjacobsen

Post a track, please!

[fjacobsen]

I finally succeeded geting into VRS, but it is definitly harder than before, so something must hev changed.

[tusler]

I like coming down while in a left hand turn and I can get into VRS very easily while in the turn let the speed drop to zero and then try to pull it out with collective, I'll crash every time.:cry:

[VanjaB]

I like coming down while in a left hand turn and I can get into VRS very easily while in the turn let the speed drop to zero and then try to pull it out with collective, I'll crash every time.:cry:

 

 

This. Basically anytime your forward airspeed drops to zero and you are making large collective increases the danger increases ten-fold. Try landing on the oil-rig quick mission with your tail turned into the wind. Its nearly impossible NOT to enter VRS.

[sondo214]

I also have the feeling that VRS has changed...

[[Knight]]

Well, after the release of 1.2.5 I experimented a bit to see how mast bumping changed and due to my pretty aggressive flight style and sudden stops and turns while airborne I experienced a lot of vrs. So I cannot confirm that issue.

 

 

Same here. I also used to be-able to beat the piss out of the Huey in 1.2.4 but now I am forced to fly it correctly. That's a good thing though so I'm not complaining I think she handles fine and you guys are probably just getting used to it.

[sSkullZnBoneZz]

I like coming down while in a left hand turn and I can get into VRS very easily while in the turn let the speed drop to zero and then try to pull it out with collective, I'll crash every time.:cry:

 

Same here, before update and after 1.2.5