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it was 120mb ill try to get a new shorter one today

Apologies first time trying a track fike ill fix when I get home

Reference the last 20 minutes or so of the file- it’s the last engagement. was able to easily replicate it again tonight, if the JF-17 is lower, then I'll be blind until short range or I sacrifice altitude and dive. This is happening every time I fight a JF-17. in this scenario once AWACS called him about 40nm, I chose to dive and see if that would change anything- it did, I was able to see him and lock him. Previous engagements i did not dive and the range at which he appeared was shorter. also don’t know if he was jamming. SDCS_Syria3-20250204-190552.trk - Shortcut.lnk

I was 40s he was 30s I had a 40az and 4bar with his alt in heart of the radar elevation i put it on autopilot and just worked the radar to focus on trying to get a return nothing ….and this is specifically only the JF-17 i was locking other jets fine

Went up against a JF-17 twice BVR Never saw the first guy - no radar return, died. second guy never saw him until about 20% inside of R-Max, died. is anyone else having issues seeing a JF-17 on radar? i literally kept driving into them just to see when the stupid radar would give a return and only saw the second guy right when I already got his missile warning.

This has been repeated several flights, so decided to say something. i may have to select different weapons and then the 122 sidearm several times before the weapon tones comes on. symbology comes up in hud, but no tone. Last flight cycled weapons 3x before tone came on. then, driving straight into a HAWK with no terrain or buildings, clear LOS, would not lock. I broke right and defended, after a couple seconds it gave me a lock tone ...wow acting like its extremely delayed. Ill do track files next time, but this should be easily repeatable.

Just my 2c respectfully, none of the guys in my group, that I game with, saw this. @Eagle Dynamics, @BIGNEWY is there anyway, for future events, to put them out in your FB posts? We all see those, but again, out of 9 guys that I work with that are big DCS fans, none of us saw this and completely missed it. I saw a post by @Moltar on Discord with “fight for honor” in it, and I immediately ran to this tournaments section in the forums only to find that I was short by a couple of days. Respectfully requesting some better communication on these events….I don’t know about your other followers but a Facebook post on 3-d modeling of a a new Mi-24 pilot, is light years below the importance of a BFM tournament by Folds of Honor, to me respectfully.

Load into KA-50, then I select the auto start, then the screen freezes, and when I back out via ctrl+alt+Del, I see a window had popped up for SRS approval to do something. 100% repeatable by other gamers on my server. if I keep SRS closed I’m able to game. heading to work, don’t have time for files/logs. Sorry.

When are you planning the next one? I missed this one but now know where to look.

Thank you for your post.

I would say that’s going to be a different thread, and I disagree with you, respectfully. Hit me up PM for further on this topic if you want.

1) IDK, so I will take your word for it. If that’s the case, I hold my opinions on what I think about DCS/ED’s direction. But this is my wishlist item and I’ll hold to that. It’s up to ED to determine the choices. 2) If what you say is true, and that’s how much their market share is competitive PvP vs non, then their decisions on what to make are obvious and would be crazy to scrap projects. 3) EF. Let’s revisit this one when the EF rolls out….my prediction is ED will give it strengths and weaknesses for competitiveness to the previously mentioned western jets. Kinda like how the 15C doesn’t have datalink when we all know that’s a head scratcher. thanks for your post.

I know ED is looking at a FF MIG-29. I will say this- I’m happy with that progress, but its variant will determine its market. An older MIG-29A will appeal to the “I just like to fly SP and do campaigns” group. (And yes, servers like the 1980s restrictions). But anything other than a little more updated competitive multirole, won’t really be appreciated in the competitive PvP market. So, for us in this group, we will skip it like other modules. Just my opinion.

Let’s not kid ourselves, DCS is somewhere between ace combat and a mil sim. To say its one of either is completely wrong or just naive as to what sim-level accuracy is. Many of us want DCS to be as accurate as possible. But to be honest, 100% realism wouldn’t be fun for a large group out there, and therefore not sell that much. We have to accept a balance of realism and gameplay-ability. I will openly debate, publicly anyone who thinks any module is sim-level accuracy. And when I say sim, I mean the sim used to train the real deal…because that’s what a sim is. I will also debate my points about some levels of fantasy already existing in FF modules. When I flew the real deal, if I dropped my gear over 45^ Bank and/or over 2.5 Gs. THEY MALFUNCTIONED!!!!!! All that being said, what I implied in the first thread was an airplane that already exists in DCS minus one or two missile - the astra. And could be pieced together in what could be called the MiG-29K. yes, it wont be 100% realistic, but all its pieces already exist in the game minus a couple weapons. You win buddy

Let’s not even touch G limits and over G. That in itself is “fantasy version”.

Please don’t get upset. 1) I would get behind a FF SU-33. I never said I wouldn’t and if you read the first post it says “as an example”. I am on record asking ed for 33 to be FF. 2) lets take a simple gear limitation. Whoops, DCS didn’t put it in the “MIL SIM” with overwhelming documentation. Pick a plane, it isn’t modeled.

I agree with a lot of that except the realism “sim”. Coming from the real thing, DCS is far from it. The actual path DCS takes is some higher degree of realism somewhere between arcade and 100% simulated. I’d say DCS falls somewhere in the 50-60% accuracy. At a minimum I can get behind an SU-33 Full fidelity.

Would you be opposed to a FF SU-33 or J-11 or 29S?

Much of what we play with is already assumptions. Thanks for your constructive contribution.

If you think any full fidelity module in DCS is “accurate”, …well, I would disagree. Thanks. I could get on board with all of that. I do like the 1980s servers but I like the up dated stuff a bit better. Just preferences. Ultimately I think we agree the FF version is overdue.

At a minimum I would accept the current SU-33 FC3 module to be upgraded to FF, and with its tested weapons. If anyone posting here thinks SU/MiG under representation in DCS is NOT an issue, then please skip my post, since we are at a complete impasse.

The top competitive airplanes in DCS, without restricted servers (like 1980s), are 14/18/16/JF. No SU or Mig are competitive to those, sadly, with such great jets. now the subject becomes, can you make it? Well, if you’re going to say “we need realism”, coming from actually having flown mil jets, we are far from what I would call a “mil sim” even with the newest full fidelity jets. I would change my mind if I saw guys breaking their gear because they lowered them at 50^ Angle of bank and/or maybe 2.7 Gs. That’s an example, but my point is this - we are far from a “mil sim” and ED has to balance realism with gameplay. I am not advocating for arcade level gaming like ace combat, I am saying we can balance realism with gameplay. Perfect example, I think ED could take the current MiG-29 model and make estimated changes to it and call it the MiG-29K. I mean, in early access, developers are “guessing” at stuff anyway, we we this in later updates when things are COMPLETELY changed. Then, if you don’t like that, you can ask your server admins to ban “unrealistic” airplanes if you chose to. “It’s classified” If you don’t have that classified info, and you guessed at capabilities, its not illegal IMO. Although I understand that I could be wrong. In my mind its no different than when you see Growling Sidewinder having a (mod) F-22 dog fight an SU. I thought the F-22 was “classified”. Again, if its fictional, its not illegal, and every airplane in DCS has a degree to fiction about it. One last note. remember, in DCS, I can throw 30 aim 120Cs at an A-10 and we can all watch this player defeat every missile (not by terrain masking). This is the level of “realism” we are at. I and many others have seen this garbage first hand. Again, I am not an advocate for arcade level gaming, but I think there s a balance and we could hit that balance at creating such a jet. And hey, if you still don’t like the jet, ask your server admins to ban it. My server admins considered banning all FC3s. Thx

So how realistic is the FC3 MiG29? “Mach 4.2” was an exaggeration to say if you build or produce something that is not accurate, it cannot be considered a “leak”. If I build an F-22 in DCS and make it Mach 10, no one can ask me to remove it because I obviously didn’t produced something that’s classified. The point is speaking to being able to produce a fictional airplane without having to wait for it to be “unclassified”. My point was exaggerated, and NOT meant to say that’s how unrealistic I want it to be. I also want realism, but having flown them in real life, DCS is far from it. I’m not advocating for unrealistic “ace combat”, I am simply saying, they could “estimate” capabilities and still produce something in their realm of realism which is better than most games, but still far from “mil sim”. Heck, I think you could build almost every aspect of the MiG-29K from Wikipedia based on the existing FC3 mig29, adding Frankenstein pieces to complete those capabilities listed on Wikipedia, with exception to maybe the Astra missile. Again, don’t get me wrong, I want realism, but what this game is is far from what I would call a “mil sim”. ED has to balance realism with gameplay.

Wishlist (NEED): Full Fidelity Russian multi role jet (SU or MIG) with MP competitiveness in mind. For example, the MiG-29K appears to have: -Air refuel - Carrier ops - drop tanks - Fox 1, 2, and 3 “Astra” and “Adders” - anti ship missiles -anti radar missiles - and precision bombs This MiG-29K just being an example. WE NEED A FULL FI MULTIROLE RUSSIAN JET!!!!!! ”That’s classified” Just build the darn jet on assumed data….what’s the big deal? If you’re not “leaking” a real, true, classified number/data/info, then who cares? If we put a “MiG-29K” in Top Gun2 and say it went Mach 4.2, is someone going to say “that was classified”? I really don’t get this “classified” aspect DCS claims, respectfully. Just advertise it as “assumed” capabilities and maybe even place the capabilities in just a competitive state against current NATO fighters in DCS. If ED/DCS want to stick to an absolutely accurate model of a real airplane for its full fi inventory, then it will sacrifice the competitive online MP experience. Just get the jet competitive and based on assumed or existing unclassified data. because right now, there are 4 superior jets in MP, and none of them are Russian. This is sad since Su and MIG are great jets. My 2c, respectfully.

I want to propose, respectfully, a polling and fundraiser to identify which module or modules for upgrading from FC3 to Full Fidelity. Me: Updated SU-33 and J-11 since we really need more Eastern block love when it comes to airplane modules in DCS.Yea yea the JF is great but no MiG or SU full fidelity is kind of disappointing, especially when more updated J-11 carry the SD-10-like PL12 (understanding that may not be able to be modeled here respecting government wishes).