Arbitrary

I started down that path, but have not yet taken it to its conclusion (I will get to it eventually). Over the past week I have run many many tests, still reproducing the same ED Core DLL bug. -Tested with no SA-11 (replaced with SA-6) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no SA-10 (replaced with SA-2) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no NASAMS (replaced with SA-6) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no SA-19 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no SA-15 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested AI Hellfire Ks to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no Su34 Su25TM (replaced with player variant F-16) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no Su34 Su25TM Su30 MiG31 (replaced with player variant F-16) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no Su34 Su25TM Su30 MiG31 Su25T Tu95 Tu160 (replaced with player variant F-16 and F-18) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no HMMWV and no T72B/T72BU/T80/T90 (replaced with M113 BTR_D and T-55) to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with no HMMWV and no T72B/T72BU/T80/T90 (replaced with M113 BTR_D and T-55) and then with UH-60A replaced with UH-1H to see if resolved...no luck.

Does The Team have any suggestions for areas to test based on the crash dump? I ran ~10 test over the past 2 days and still have not narrowed it down. I understand The Team haven't infinite resources, but any help can be reciprocated by the community so that we can hopefully get to the bottom of this. -Tested with NO SA-11 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with NO SA-10 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with NO NASAMS to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with NO SA-19 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with NO SA-15 to see if resolved...no luck. -Tested with NO AI Hellfire Ks to see if resolved...no luck.

I tested removing SA-11 only, no luck. I tested removing SA-10 only, no luck. I tested removing NASAMS only, no luck. Will run some more tests later.

Yeah, that is an odd thought. It would be effectively spread across all modules, much like the modern assets, not linked to a single aircraft.

Roll the asset pack cost into the price of the aircraft please. You are needlessly fracturing multiplayer with (micro? macro?) transactions. The announcement at the end of May seemed like you had corrected course, but now you are completely walking it back.

2025-07-27 02:13:33.337 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2025-07-27 02:13:33.377 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20250727-021333 -------------- 2025-07-27 02:13:33.379 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.18.12722 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-07-27 02:13:33.381 INFO EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World Server\bin\edCore.dll 2025-07-27 02:13:33.383 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffbe47bb30a 00:00000000 2025-07-27 02:13:33.384 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World Server\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'user' 2025-07-27 02:13:33.386 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-07-27 02:13:33.388 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001b30a (edCore): LinkBase::Set + 0x1A 2025-07-27 02:13:33.390 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000dc604 (Transport): woCar::checkMissileThreat + 0x84 2025-07-27 02:13:33.392 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000bedd8 (Transport): wcColumn::GetLastWaypointId + 0x1C8 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004508 (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3D8 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004aa2 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a644ed (DCS_server): SW + 0x44D3ED 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a641c4 (DCS_server): SW + 0x44D0C4 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a87b39 (DCS_server): SW + 0x470A39 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a3c844 (DCS_server): SW + 0x425744 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a3de83 (DCS_server): SW + 0x426D83 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000002584cf0 (DCS_server): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x107ECEC 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000010c5632 (DCS_server): SW + 0xAAE532 2025-07-27 02:13:33.393 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-07-27 02:13:33.654 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. Looks like the same bug as in the OP is still happening. Same mission file I shared with BIGNEWY in a PM before.

Edit: disregard; after another test and closer inspection, what I originally had in this post was determined to be an entirely different bug. removing to avoid mixing up of issues.

During earlier testing I ran the Cold War unit set on Syria without any crashes after 36 hours of continuous runtime. So it might point to something on Caucasus and/or the modern unit set, or might be completely unrelated.

2025-07-11 05:15:43.437 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2025-07-11 05:15:43.467 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20250711-051543 -------------- 2025-07-11 05:15:43.469 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.17.12034 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-07-11 05:15:43.471 INFO EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World Server\bin\edCore.dll 2025-07-11 05:15:43.473 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffbdfa6b55a 00:00000000 2025-07-11 05:15:43.475 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World Server\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'arbitrary' 2025-07-11 05:15:43.477 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-07-11 05:15:43.479 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001b55a (edCore): LinkBase::Set + 0x1A 2025-07-11 05:15:43.480 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000dc0b5 (Transport): woCar::checkMissileThreat + 0x85 2025-07-11 05:15:43.482 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000be4d5 (Transport): wcColumn::GetLastWaypointId + 0x1B5 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000461b (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3EB 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004c42 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a5d51a (DCS_server): SW + 0x4453FA 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a5d1f1 (DCS_server): SW + 0x4450D1 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a826c2 (DCS_server): SW + 0x46A5A2 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a36964 (DCS_server): SW + 0x41E844 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a38023 (DCS_server): SW + 0x41FF03 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000002576d08 (DCS_server): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x107BD04 2025-07-11 05:15:43.483 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000010bd38e (DCS_server): SW + 0xAA526E 2025-07-11 05:15:43.484 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-07-11 05:15:43.701 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. Looks like this is the same bug as initially reported. Didn't know dedicated server produced tracks. Please see attached. e: looks like it took ~4 hours to trigger it. 2025-07-11 01:23:52.954 is miz load 2025-07-11 05:15:43.437 is crash pop-up dcs.log-20250711-051543.zipserver-20250711-102353.trk

I haven't been running it, but I will fire it up again to test.

Just sitting in the dirt next to the taxiway at Al Dumayr, the tail wheel (unlocked) was jumping and jittering and jerking all over despite being otherwise stationary. I could throttle up to 100% without the plane rolling or nosing into the dirt (no brakes applied). Something is fishy. In other situations, like if the brakes were applied at that throttle setting, it would tip forward and wreck the prop. e: I have attached a screenshot of the situation; throttle and prop pitch reduced while trying to take the screenshot

2.9.2 update seems to have broken my Export.lua again

Yes, I have a fair bit of experience with road landings and off road landing in several aircraft. This is dissimilar behavior.

I have only done limited testing, so it may be an issue with the location I selected and/or limited skill level... The physics didn't quite seem right; this may be intentional behavior but it also limits viability. Trying to takeoff from a player made road base on Syria just doesn't seem to be happening. When using the narrow road, it seems like the wheel that drifts off the tarmac into the grass surges forward and the wheel on the tarmac catches and twists the plane backwards on that side. Purely off road, the plane yaws a lot and sometimes suddenly noses over. I tried 5 or 6 times, crashed between 30 and 70 knots or so. Later, I caught my prop on a powerline while zig-zagging between the poles under the lines, tried to do a deadstick landing in a grassy field...the moment the wheels touched the terrain the plane tumbled over. If anyone else tries, please share your results and which map and what kind of terrain you tested along with the results.

I updated to the beta, and then it stopped outputting aircraft shakes. Settings appear to have reset themselves. I had to change it back to ForceFeel. Passes the massage test. I clicked DCS Repair Export. No luck. The log is spamming "10:01:07.3604 System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object." edit: ah, jeez. So it installs to a separate folder and screws up the linking between the non-beta and DCS, and I was launching the non-beta.

Might be related to this one as well.

null This really sucks when working in the mission editor. Why is there even this continuous login check when ED says 99.999999999999999999999999% of the player base is single player?

I was curious if this was fixed in the latest patch sans patch note. But it still seems to be present.

I just got this while working in the mission editor. Wasted a lot of time. Thank you.

Thank you. The crash remains a pain point until it is patched; if The Team could provide some insight into the root cause, we could implement some changes to the mission that may reduce/eliminate the mission crash. We would be very appreciative.

Thank you. The only annoyance for testing is that it I have no idea what is actually inducing it. It might happen more frequently with more players connected, or it might not. And like I said in the OP, it may require leaving the mission running for more than 6 hours. It is a pain point in my community because it can happen a few times in our flight nights. Other communities utilize the base mission lua and did mention crashes in discord chat.

2025-04-27 12:44:19.195 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2025-04-27 12:44:19.223 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20250427-124419 -------------- 2025-04-27 12:44:19.225 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.15.9599 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-04-27 12:44:19.227 INFO EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World Server\bin\edCore.dll 2025-04-27 12:44:19.229 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffaadf1b52a 00:00000000 2025-04-27 12:44:19.231 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World Server\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'username' 2025-04-27 12:44:19.233 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-04-27 12:44:19.235 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001b52a (edCore): LinkBase::Set + 0x1A 2025-04-27 12:44:19.237 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000dc0b5 (Transport): woCar::checkMissileThreat + 0x85 2025-04-27 12:44:19.238 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000be4d5 (Transport): wcColumn::GetLastWaypointId + 0x1B5 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000461b (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3EB 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004c42 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a4e33a (DCS_server): SW + 0x4368BA 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a4e011 (DCS_server): SW + 0x436591 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a74a52 (DCS_server): SW + 0x45CFD2 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a285e4 (DCS_server): SW + 0x410B64 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a29ca3 (DCS_server): SW + 0x412223 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000256e4f8 (DCS_server): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x10854F4 2025-04-27 12:44:19.239 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000010ad47e (DCS_server): SW + 0xA959FE 2025-04-27 12:44:19.240 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-04-27 12:44:24.475 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. Here you go, buddy. I did the ram speed reduction, and the other janitor tasks you indicated. Again, this is not one computer that is consistently producing this crash. There are no other crashes. Only this crash with the doactionsuntil, across three or more computers.null dcs.log-20250427-124419.zip dcs.log

Thanks for sharing, Grindmetal. Sleighzy, the log shared by Grindmetal is a run on a different system. Wouldn't an issue with RAM produce inconsistent faults, instead we are seeing 3+ different servers throw the same error chain?

Maybe I grabbed the wrong file for the singular crash. Windows 11 likes to put the newest file at the BOTTOM despite being sorted newest first. Here is the latest. This happens on more than just my system. I thought it might be related to an 'unstuck' routine for ground units that got stuck, so I disabled that part. Still the same doactionsuntil + 0x262 2025-04-25 15:19:28.398 INFO EDCORE (Main): try to write dump information 2025-04-25 15:19:28.426 INFO EDCORE (Main): # -------------- 20250425-151928 -------------- 2025-04-25 15:19:28.428 INFO EDCORE (Main): DCS/2.9.15.9599 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-04-25 15:19:28.430 INFO EDCORE (Main): D:\DCS World Server\bin\edCore.dll 2025-04-25 15:19:28.431 INFO EDCORE (Main): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007fff521ab52a 00:00000000 2025-04-25 15:19:28.433 INFO EDCORE (Main): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World Server\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'username' 2025-04-25 15:19:28.437 INFO EDCORE (Main): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-04-25 15:19:28.439 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001b52a (edCore): LinkBase::Set + 0x1A 2025-04-25 15:19:28.441 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000dc0b5 (Transport): woCar::checkMissileThreat + 0x85 2025-04-25 15:19:28.443 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000000be4d5 (Transport): wcColumn::GetLastWaypointId + 0x1B5 2025-04-25 15:19:28.443 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000000461b (World): wSimTrace::CommandsTraceDiscreteIsOn + 0x3EB 2025-04-25 15:19:28.443 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000004c42 (World): wSimCalendar::DoActionsUntil + 0x262 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a4e33a (DCS_server): SW + 0x4368BA 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a4e011 (DCS_server): SW + 0x436591 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a74a52 (DCS_server): SW + 0x45CFD2 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a285e4 (DCS_server): SW + 0x410B64 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x0000000000a29ca3 (DCS_server): SW + 0x412223 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000256e4f8 (DCS_server): AmdPowerXpressRequestHighPerformance + 0x10854F4 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x00000000010ad47e (DCS_server): SW + 0xA959FE 2025-04-25 15:19:28.444 INFO EDCORE (Main): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-04-25 15:19:28.638 INFO EDCORE (Main): Minidump created. dcs.logdcs.log-20250425-151928.zip

I disable ground unit "unstuck" routine to see if it was related to that. Currently inconclusive. Had another "soft" crash popup that didn't stop the server from running (like my 2nd post in this thread). Unfortunately the game later crashed in a way that didn't generate a dump successfully. 2025-04-25 05:35:43.175 INFO EDCORE (43264): try to write dump information 2025-04-25 05:35:43.222 INFO EDCORE (43264): # -------------- 20250425-053544 -------------- 2025-04-25 05:35:43.224 INFO EDCORE (43264): DCS/2.9.15.9599 (x86_64; MT; Windows NT 10.0.22631) 2025-04-25 05:35:43.226 INFO EDCORE (43264): D:\DCS World Server\bin\WorldGeneral.dll 2025-04-25 05:35:43.228 INFO EDCORE (43264): # C0000005 ACCESS_VIOLATION at 00007ffeda62aa17 00:00000000 2025-04-25 05:35:43.231 INFO EDCORE (43264): SymInit: Symbol-SearchPath: 'D:\DCS World Server\bin;', symOptions: 532, UserName: 'username' 2025-04-25 05:35:43.233 INFO EDCORE (43264): OS-Version: 10.0.22631 () 0x100-0x1 2025-04-25 05:35:43.235 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x00000000000faa17 (WorldGeneral): TerrainUtility::~TerrainUtility + 0x267 2025-04-25 05:35:43.237 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x00000000000e64b2 (WorldGeneral): wDetectorWorker::~wDetectorWorker + 0xDF2 2025-04-25 05:35:43.239 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x000000000001cdb0 (edterrain4): ITerrainImpl4::EventHandler::~EventHandler + 0x1C80 2025-04-25 05:35:43.239 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x000000000001bb55 (edterrain4): ITerrainImpl4::EventHandler::~EventHandler + 0xA25 2025-04-25 05:35:43.239 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x000000000001930b (edterrain4): landscape4::lRoad::getStartParam + 0xA26B 2025-04-25 05:35:43.239 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x0000000000019347 (edterrain4): landscape4::lRoad::getStartParam + 0xA2A7 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 WARNING LOG (46824): 10 duplicate message(s) skipped. 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x0000000000022cce (edterrain4): ITerrainImpl4::queryAmbientSounds + 0x153E 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x000000000000f63a (edterrain4): landscape4::lRoad::getStartParam + 0x59A 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x00000000000fc097 (WorldGeneral): TerrainUtility::~TerrainUtility + 0x18E7 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x00000000000fb68f (WorldGeneral): TerrainUtility::~TerrainUtility + 0xEDF 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x0000000000035019 (edCore): ed::SyncTaskQueue::push_task + 0x489 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x0000000000049cb6 (edCore): ed::SyncTaskQueue::push_task + 0x15126 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x00000000000338e1 (edCore): ed::thread::_get_current_thread_id + 0x71 2025-04-25 05:35:43.241 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x0000000000029333 (ucrtbase): _recalloc + 0xA3 2025-04-25 05:35:43.242 INFO EDCORE (43264): 0x000000000001257d (KERNEL32): BaseThreadInitThunk + 0x1D 2025-04-25 05:35:51.029 INFO EDCORE (43264): Minidump created.