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I press "intialize prerocessor variables" it says restart game i do that and nothing really changes. Errors still there Edit: Works now after switching back to default ini

even then it´s only 10 losses due to a2a combat so ususally the advanced fighters activate later automatically? Didnt knoiw that ^^, thought it was a choice kinda thing or they wouldnt appear at all. But ok so i can just play vanilla

Here´s my first War over Beirut debrief: I did activate all the higher tier enemies, nullStill losing 43 friendlies, 10 due to a2a seemed quite harsh. Probably just a dcs ai thing, but ill leave this here.

Looks good

that worked, also would be cool to check the red site as well, i think mig29s and the higher SUs might have an issue too. Something is wrong with the red site as well ^^. just clicking save init causes error

mainly it happens when changing the player flight to f16 or generally when copying the campaign and then trying to open the edit section oob_air.lua oob_air_init.lua

I got similar issue basically again on War over Beirut when trying to generate a first miz with f16C(any flight) for Multiplayer with choice by Nato. Using 2 players, F16C, SEAD. It keeps looping with "not enough ready aircraft for all clients"

Hello again, now i tried the War over Beirut Campaign, I noticed that you can edit active groups now in DCE, which i tried to do but on saving it had a critical error See the end of this message for details on invoking just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box. ************** Exception Text ************** System.FormatException: Input string was not in a correct format. at System.Number.ParseDouble(String value, NumberStyles options, NumberFormatInfo numfmt) at System.String.System.IConvertible.ToDouble(IFormatProvider provider) at DCE_Manager.CampaignEdit..ctor(Form1 form1, String nameCamp) in C:\Users\Miguel\source\repos\TestNomSolution\Test\CampaignEdit.cs:line 986 at DCE_Manager.Form1.CampaignEdit1(Object sender, EventArgs e, String path, String NameCamp) in C:\Users\Miguel\source\repos\TestNomSolution\Test\Form1_DCE.cs:line 4140 at DCE_Manager.Form1.<>c__DisplayClass69_0.<DrawIconeCampaign>b__0(Object sender, EventArgs e) in C:\Users\Miguel\source\repos\TestNomSolution\Test\Form1_DCE.cs:line 3851 at System.Windows.Forms.Control.OnClick(EventArgs e) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks) at System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m) at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam) ************** Loaded Assemblies ************** mscorlib Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9261.0 built by: NET481REL1LAST_C CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.NET/Framework64/v4.0.30319/mscorlib.dll ---------------------------------------- DCE_Manager Assembly Version: 6.12.35.112 Win32 Version: 6.12.35.112 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/DCE_Manager/DCE_Manager.exe ---------------------------------------- System.Windows.Forms Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9251.0 built by: NET481REL1LAST_C CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll ---------------------------------------- System Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9261.0 built by: NET481REL1LAST_C CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Drawing Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Configuration Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Configuration/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Configuration.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Core Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9261.0 built by: NET481REL1LAST_C CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Core/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Core.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Xml Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Net.Http Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Net.Http/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Net.Http.dll ---------------------------------------- System.Management Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Management/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Management.dll ---------------------------------------- Accessibility Assembly Version: 4.0.0.0 Win32 Version: 4.8.9037.0 built by: NET481REL1 CodeBase: file:///C:/Windows/Microsoft.Net/assembly/GAC_MSIL/Accessibility/v4.0_4.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/Accessibility.dll ---------------------------------------- NLua Assembly Version: 1.7.3.0 Win32 Version: 1.7.3.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/DCE_Manager/NLua.DLL ---------------------------------------- KeraLua Assembly Version: 1.4.1.0 Win32 Version: 1.4.1.0 CodeBase: file:///C:/Program%20Files/DCE_Manager/KeraLua.DLL ---------------------------------------- ************** JIT Debugging ************** To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this application or computer (machine.config) must have the jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section. The application must also be compiled with debugging enabled. For example: <configuration> <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" /> </configuration> When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer rather than be handled by this dialog box. Also when copying the campaign to any other aircraft, I cant access the settings anymore without cuasing an error.

For example when skipping mission and at the end of the first mission the results i think dont work. And the generate next mission doesnt come up.

Scripts Mod 20.77.469 DCE Manager 6.12.35.112

Hey tried the "falcon over PG - NG" campaign and it seems to have some script issues, e.g. cant click on skip mission. and debrief also didnt work

All you need is to run a liberation mission Here´s an example whcih i just tested. Not the worst mission but you can see some differences. Smooth 72fps (capped) in 2.9.5 and a lot of dips in 2.9.7 . Some other interesting things in 2.9.7 checking the cores one core was reaching the 100 frequently. After disabling the core affinity of that core and another spiky one things spread out more and there was slightly less stuttering, though still there to some degree. retribution_nextturn.miz

I was trying the iran iraq one with mp by nato i think. That aside, when trying to get a SAR/CSAR mission only. Will that only happen if let a normal strike or A2A mission play out first? I can get a SAR mission but it will basically take forever until anything happens. That´s all intended?

"Not enough ready aircraft for all clients.." What´s this error?

Try the same mission but start far away on an empty airfield then you can see the 2 issues seperated.

2.9.5.55918 works fine for me

Here are the 2 batfiles that i use for repair and downgrading. Put them into your DCS folder (not in bin), you can edit them with an editor DCS_updater_Downgrader.bat DCS_updater_repair.bat

We could even run a server alongside our main game on same pc, the result would be that the server is handling the ai tasks and causes desync and rubberbanding. Our clients ran perfeclty finne with full fps. So it hardly can be the cpu failing. i can easily run a 2nd game alongside dcs and it would be fine

Again temps are fine, cpu is fine, testd on 2 machines.

yes it is due to the game what else would it be? The game currently cant handle more heavy missions. that´s all there is to it. Probabaly due to the new AI features. Ai overloads one cpu core, game starts to stutter, fps sinks drastically. This also happens on pure server installs. So no GPU even involved. Failing what sense? what are you looking for here? the CPU cores are at 100 and temps are fine. I mean yes the CPU cant handle it. But the point is the game demands much more CPU with the latest updates. Which seems unproportional to the stuff that was added. My tests have shown that this issue happens in VR, in non VR, as well as on dedicated servers(server side). Idk what the others did maybe they have way too high settings sure which can add to the whole issue. But I have tested this without any GPU demands. And normal missions run fine for me on all platforms, that´s not the issue here for me. Friend of mine with 5800x3d and 4090 tried the same missions with the same results You want a test mission?

Fact is the performance heavily decreased. I understand that new features require more performance. but the new features require an unreasonable amount of CPU as it stands and im sure such things can and should be improved by ED. Again we´re talking about laggy 30v30 servers vs 100vs100+ which ran fine before. These are PURE CPU issues and have nothing to do with gpu. Tested on a 5800x3d. Nobody here´complains about the game not being able to run a basic scenario. This is simply a thread about heavy increase in CPU usage that seems unreasonable compared to before when playing more heavy scenarios. Sure the Dynamic campaign "bubble" as you exepct can come at some point. but that may still be idk 2 years in the future. If you have fun playing 20v20 scenarios that´s fine for you then. But for many it simply is a let down. I dont see why you would even remotely try to argue this I dont think it´s reasonable to wait till then and further performance updates outside of that should be at least looked into (which they are doing).

yeah dunno about crystal, still works fine with quest

I did remove quadviews and it got better but performance is still nowhere near how it used to be. OVerall that is to be expected as quadviews consumes additional CPU power. But if your cpu is already struggling to begin with quadviews will make it worse. I wouldnt say quadviews is by any means the cause of this whole issue hence, it´s just not usable due to the performance issues present already.

Was it better though on 2.9.5? As the thread is indeed about degredation from 2.9.5 onwards. If this was generally an issue it might be worth starting a new thread for that specific issue.

Guy from retribution reported that if he sets the ground units to 10 per side, he could raise the aircraft count to 100v100 again.