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And again, then what about this few just as a quick example: Plus all the magical RWRs, these are all "casual" when it comes to your term. At that point, all of this should be removed as well? This is not asking for making everything work like the previus one does. but allowing people of making a choice. If you want your missions to have the more "realistic" SPO-15, then you can set it in the mission editor, or if you don't then you have other options. In the end you are still playing a game flying virtual jets. There is no such as "casual" or "hardcore"

I would as well, but since there is no realistic option for those jets, this is the best option of the two worlds, a simple mission editor setting.

That is in many many years. Think about it. F-16, F/A-18, F-14, M2K, JF-17, F-5, all FC3. (And correct is a big word, yes the lack of a launch warning is correct, but that's all about it. It doesn't turn off with the radar on) This can't be a change that goes through a year, this is a multi layer change where all the logical simulation of that RWR system needs to be reworked. So again, having that option would solve the problem until everything will be added and updated to the proper simulation standard

Sure I have no problem, but that means all the aircraft should be what limitations in had in real life. Just like the ones you mentioned above Additinonally, that all aircraft in DCS (other than the F-4 and the FF 29) has a magic RWR that picks up SARH launches that it shouldn't. In the end, next to the study level simulation, people are using these aircraft to fly in virtual PvE or PvP combat scenarios. And right now, you can't take the 29 anywhere, since everything has magical properties. This is why a switch option like that what is mentioned on this thread would be really good or would solve all the current issues with the only full fidelity Soviet 4th gen aircraft.

+1 Seems like the best option since ED didn't seem to care a lot about the contradicting documentation and information about the function of the SPO-15

Yeah, it is multiple people that have been experiancing the "just roll and the 27 is dead" bug. And it is not due to chaff, clutter, or anything some above responded. Its simply losing all tracking capability with good solid locks, when the enemy aircraft just rolls a bit. Honestly, I am suprised we haven't gotten an offical reponse to this yet. . .

For all the people whom have been flying MiG-21s and Hinds, (SPO-10 my beloved) not getting a launch warning is not a problem I think And I hope this function will be pushed to all modules, inculding blue and red, so the case of the Magic RWRs that we have in most jets would not be the case anymore. But sadly as for, that the RWR just not even possible to use, since it gives back constant lock tone from a ground search radar that is on the friendly side 100 plus KM away is absurd. And this mixed with the unserviced SPO that can't work with a radar emitting (while it should, even if the reading could be chaotic in HPRF, but not even in MPRF there should be no problem) and I don't want to get into details here about the R-27R API bug where the enemy rolls and the missile stop tracking, since this topic is about the SPO. This things are core functions that needs to be fixed, since as for now other than enjoying the MiG in a traning server (what I have been doing greatly) you can't take it anywhere to fly in a digital combat setting, what ruins the point of a combat flight simulator.

Since I know you know a good bit about the 29, I wonder what is your take on the mentioned comments by ED. Since I find it hard to belive that the radar was ment to work this way, without any proper way to set Delta H

I agree, it would be a nice addition, even if it doesn't have the same usebility as on a western jets, its enaugh for having minimal Like, we already have a civilian navigation system fitted on it, so it wouldn't be out of palce to have a NVE. Plus, would be just fun flying around in a MiG-29 durring zero light condition and being able to see outside, even if the instruments won't be readable with the NVG active. Implementation could also be simple as in the ground crew menu, just like for other aircraft that has can use NVEs

Exactly, not even mentioning the SPO-15LM to my knowledge was the better varraint of the SPO-15 family of its time (for example: SPO-15LE) I could see that being the case of having a run down export varriant, since the soviets ripped things such as like the LAZUR/LASZLO GCI datalink from the export ones. And there are records of German MiG-29 pilots talking about after the reunification of Germany, LASZLO system got removed from the jets before it was given to them. But I don't even see any records of the SPO-15LE having such a issue with the radar that it needs to completely block the whole frontal section off.

Since it was the easiest to make without properly modelling it, that's what it feels like at this current moment, and how most of this topic is being ignored. There are so many documents and SMEs that proves the complete opposite that what is implamented. I would rather have the "chaotic" readings in HPRF, and properply working RWR in MPRF Insted of being blasted by an aircraft that we don't even know that is locking. Currently a MiG-21 has more SA than a way more advnaced MiG-29. But hey, more importantly that all other jets have magic rwr that detects things that it shouldn't even, but the SPO can't even work with it's radar on (that was designed to operate it)

This looks very much like a bug with the new missile API. I have noticed as well that all you need to do is roll and pull a little and the R-27 just lost all abilitly to guide, and no chaff is needed at all. Especially if anykind of hard roll is intruduced. ColdClaws report and yours shows the same exact bug. Hope this gets fixed soon, since this is some warthunder levels of "just roll and the missile misses" kind of bug.

And the same counter argument is also true. There is an declassified document published in moscow 2011 that mentions the syncing between the radar and SPO. (Also ascessable on a online classroom website) So yes, It is as simple as mentioned above. Edit: And compered to your intersting claiming logic. The difference between throwing words around, that the mentioned SME can prove that they were actual pilots of the well mentioned platform.

Alright, so we have a out of sync, unserviced MiG-29 lacking parts for the SPO-15 post WP. Even when multiple real pilots that are confirmed real pilots talking that yes it would still work if the radar is on, and documents are proving it. Meanwhile there is also the magic RWR for all F-16 and such. Man I had my hopes up for this release, but now its pointless.

They can remove this if the Laszlo/Lazur is finally in, so you actually get usable information.

What is interesting, I have been seeing a lot of talk, and also snippets of a bigger tech manual showcasing the timing that is specificly between the radar and the SPO-15 so they will be in sync. Especially to avoid interference of the radar and the SPO-15, and I have not been seeing any information so far that the radar completly cuts off the frontal lobe of the RWR. Only interference that could happen what is a maintenence issue, hence why the sync is needed. Not a RWR design flaw, such as like this currently. When installed into aircraft, SPO-15 is connected to the radar with a sync blanking line which makes SPO ignore own radar when antennas catch radars sidelobes or structural elements pass the signal. What makes complete sense in the matter. This cut off implementation makes the SPO-10 look superior since even that has sync lines.

I agree that something on the radar is not okay. Been flying a lot of BVR against Mirage 2000s just today, and the lock is lost every single time with zero effort. (I have track files I will upload them later to this post) Tried also switching radar modes when the target goes to a lower aspect, but when switching is tried loses the lock the moment you try to switch, feels like no memory mode is implemented at all making it impossible to switch to the proper radar mode in combat. The vertical mode absulutly does nothing as well, like the above mentioned main post.

Hungarian Air Force MiG-29 9.12 Operated by the 59th TFW 1st and 2nd squadron Puma and Dongó from 1993 - 2010 Inculded both early and late livery varriants. With the original Russian paint used from 1993 - 2002 Then the NATO gray from 2002 - 2010 Inculded some special airshow varraitns as well.