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hey Cy,
thoughtful reply. I still wonder at what the holy grail would be for a pc that can run the sims on the horizon. Cache? Bandwidth? cpu-Ghz? Texture fill rate? GPU memory bus speed?
I am tending towards the long view. I'm assuming that no matter what components I buy I won't be able to run Sow_battle of Britain in all it's glory for another three years after it's been out (and it ain't due out soon). So, I'll pick a socket then rely on CPU, and GPU upgrades.
Sure wish I knew how sim developers decide how hard they will push desktop computer technology.
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An article of possible interest:
New Intel Core i5 chip surfaces on retailer's Web site
Flyby, the Nehalem design based processors (including the i7) include the memory controller inside the processor. IIRC, the preceding design's memory controller was affected by the "Front Side Bus" clock speed.
So how does that effect our flight sims, CyBerkut?
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hey!
I agree. the I7 920 is plenty I feel, when overclocked to maybe 3 it will perform just fine. I do alot of 3d motion graphics so that's why I need the video and ram power.
I am still not sure to go with EVGA or BFG? EVGA has really nice overclocking software for there video cards.
I always felt that's where the work is being done anyway. with the new core I7 memory control arcitecture I don't think processor speed can be thought of in the same way as the old frontside bus anyway. Now we have G/T's of transfer speed.
I remember seeing the limited release of the Dell Rampage a few years ago when nvidia built what I believe was the prototypes for these new video cards with dual processors custom built for that computer.
That monster had some outragous fill rates running a 30" monitor! among everything else. I think it went for about $10,000 with the custom paint job......LOL
LOL!!! I remember what I paid for an Orchid VooDoo card with 2mb of onboard ram, about $250.00, iirc.Hey! Wan't that before AGP? :lol:
BTW, what do you mean about new i7 memory controller, and not looking at processor speed the same way...?
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then there's more...
found this link about a Lynnfield test:
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rgrt input, MTK. ;)
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then there's this...
Seems as though the Chinese have an inside track on the new Intel processors (not official) the link is translated:
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Core I7 is a whole new ball game. if you look at the through put specs and triple channel ram it's hands down core I7
We're talking gigatera's here, with no more frontside bus!
in my opinion it's not even a choice. I drewl for this system! with dual nvidia
295's in SLI! it's a monster
This is my dream system
Asus Rampage II extreme
Core I7 any
24 gigs triple channel ram
2 x BFG 295 GTX video cards in SLI
Like I can afford any of this but I am going to get it!..lol
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well have one on me!:beer: But why so much ram? Doing heavy video work?
Anyway, my core i7 system will be built around going SLi too, but not with those awesome 295s (if I could afford one of those I could hope for another when prices drop - maybe when the 300 series dual-gpu cards come out). I'll be looking at the GTX-275, or have a flight of fancy and get a -285 if the Boss let's me.
I've got to go with the i7-920, with DO stepping. I intend to overclock to about 3.6 on air, so I've been checking out cpu-cooler testing.
Yet it seems almost practical to wait until the i5s are tested. I've waited this long. Just have to see h ow trhe wind blows.;)
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There's nothing to refer to yet. No thorough tests, no overclocking statistics.
ya know G, come to think of it I haven't seen much. But I thought I saw something, a short while back. I'll have to try to find out if there's anything new out there.
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EDIT:not too much out there atm.
http://www.overclock.net/hardware-news/512492-tpu-intel-core-i5-lynnfield-2-a.html
http://www.tipidpc.com/viewtopic.php?tid=192590
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,687805/Intel-confirms-Lynnfield-CPU-specs/News/
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I tend to agree...
Piolotasso,
I agree with you about the core i7-920 being a good choice. Actually there have been several articles about the scaling differences between using high-performance or lesser ram. Here's one:
http://www.anandtech.com/memory/showdoc.aspx?i=3589.
Otherwise prices are dropping. I've seen the -920 on slae for $199.00 just last week.
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alright ya brutes,
I request your opinions on which processor will be better suited for simming over the other? I refer to the core i7 versus the core i5. I haven't been able to find that out. All I know is that I've read where the i5 will overclock like a demon. I don't think it has as much cache as an i7. I thought sims took advantage of high clocks and high cache levels. Can someone point me in the right direction here?
thanks,
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edited: never mind.
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this is a link to HardOCP's recent review of i7 cpu coolers. interesting result, imo.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7_heatsink_roundup_q309/1
if you don't want to read the whole thing, just go to the conclusion page. ;)
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interesting read. nice claims too, but it would be nice if that system could be tested, and the claims borne out. But then again, I always suspect any claims I read about unproven military capability, no matter where the claims come from. For that matter, I never blindly believe anyone's media either!;)
always question.
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yeah, but what about...?
hmmm... nice discussion here of forward-swept wings, but is there anymore info on Russian stealth planes? such as:
http://www.defenceaviation.com/2008/01/su-pakfa-a-russian-stealth-fighter.html
and this: http://righttruth.typepad.com/right_truth/2006/05/the_new_russian.html
and here's a site I've never seen before:
http://www.aviapedia.com/forum/#232
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oh, btw
here's a page combat simmers may find useful for (maybe) mission building; stuff right out of today's headlines. hope someone finds it helpful.
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/index.html
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It's my rather primitive understanding that the wings must fit into the supersonic shock cone of the aircraft - but I may have that wrong. If that is the case, then the length of the wing is limited by the cone, otherwise you create extra drag. I think.
However! There's a more reliable list of advantages and disadvantages:
here's another article (sort of interesting):
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/russia/su-47.htm
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Their main advantage is remaining un-stalled for very high degrees of AoA.
On the other hand, they're probably not so great for supersonic flight.
Since you can replicate good controllability at high AoA with TVC, may as well keep a standard, high-speed efficient wing and use TVC to get all the advantages.
well...glad I asked. But why do you think this design is not so great for supersonic flight?
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say what?
Forward swept wing fighter planes are reasonably useless on the other hand.can you tell me (us) why you think so? I don't know a lot about the design pros and cons, except that I've read somewhere that forward-swept wings supposedly offer less drag, iirc.
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The planes dont look "right". Remeber if it looks right it flies right.
Furthermore they look more complicated than they need to be. Why a squashed cockpit, or the cockroach apearance of the plane? = Expensive to build.
Those are only art sketches and of course the real blue prints are probably very different. These art pictures seem to be more about desinformation (or lack of base) than anything else. :)
Don't forget the "Wobbly Goblin", alias F117 NightHwak. Who would have though that thing could fly? Never discount computer-aided flight controls. Also thanks to the advancement in construction materials, the forward-swept fighter planes like the Berkut are possible, as was the case with the experimental X29 in the '80s: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEKmRxrkKt4&feature=related
and here's the gorgeous Berkut:
So perhaps if you can dream it, and build it, it will fly (remember the B49 Flying wing?).
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still...
the artist's concepts look very interesting, no?
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Can you see this page (*&%$@#$%%^^9)? No, because it's a stealth page!:lol: But go to this link, and see what our Russian friends are thinking about:
http://englishrussia.com/?p=3268
Nice pictures anyway. ;)
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because of this game, I am in the middle of divorce
That should explain the life with Black Shark
So that's the secret! You lucky dog! I gotta get this sim now! :D
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I understand, jc. None of my "core" friends are really interested in participating in online simming. Only one of them has any interest in sims at all, and he claims he wants to wait until he's good enough before going online to compete with breathers. Meanwhile I've met some great people (thru Hyperlobby) and they helped me learn the ropes, especially in IL2. I flew a bit online in LOMAC too. I guess I would tell you to look for like-minded people who happen to be already online, flying Black Shark. I think you'll find them easily enough. You may try several people, or squadrons, but with a bit of luck you'll find a group that you can fly with, the way you like to fly. Then you'll have a great time, especially once you're on comms, talking with that bunch just like they were old friends (which they will become). You'll meet people from around the world, and won't think twice about who does not want to fly the sims you like. Now go get out there! ;)
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After finishing all SP campaigns on highest reality setting never played it again. I never tried MP, maybe later this will be the reason to return back to BS.
If you have an opportunity to play against other breathers, I'd recommend multiplayer for any sim (though I do not yet own Black Shark). Perhaps you are using multiplayer in some other sim?
As for being a TOW magnet...well...only my friend leafer! :D
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great to see you're not bored! :D But what do you mean "by way of TOWs"? Nice looking project photos, btw.
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i5 or i7 for simming?
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you chose wisely,
So it seems, dawestside. Check out this link from Anandtech. The article is a few months old; the link is to the conclusion (the point of which I think would be suitable to a gamer's way of thinking).
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/showdoc.aspx?i=3570&p=11
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