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I never saw this guys in action before....... http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/TUCKIE/1129/ wow, and look at that bird....... http://www.lockon-models.com/index.php?showtopic=99 nice done

Did any body notise that? http://lockon.co.uk/index.php?end_pos=133&scr=products&lang=en or it is old news already?

So, you guys saing that chaff is ineffective against AMRAAM (R-77, AIM-120) missiles in reality?

What is DOPPLER?

Now, here is an interview, with someone, who probably has experience in air combat.:smilewink: America Strikes Back: Inside Look at War on Terrorism from the Air Aired October 10, 2001 - 10:50 ET THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED. MILES O'BRIEN, CNN ANCHOR: A lot of talk about this war against terrorism being an unconventional one. But at least in its early stages, this air war against targets in Afghanistan looks a lot like previous ones. Some of it is, well, almost paint by numbers if you will. Joining to talk a little bit more about the first stages of any war is retired General Don Shepperd. He has a lot of experience in fighters, and can give us a sense of what the first targets might be. In this case, you go after the things that might should you out of the sky. I guess that should be obvious. GEN. DON SHEPPERD, (RET.) CNN MILITARY ANALYST: That's right, miles, the integrated air-defense system is what you are after in the beginning. O'BRIEN: Let's do a sort of an a, b, c. This is not a how to, if you will. We don't want to do that kind of thing. But we want to give you a general sense of some of the principles involved in any early stages of any air campaign. Take a look at what's going on potentially in a situation like this. We have highlighted Kabul in Afghanistan. And let's bring you down a little closer and give you a sense. Early-warning radar and F-16 or F-15 coming in. Give us a sense of that. SHEPPERD: Well, basically what happens here is the early-warning radar is the first thing to pick up aircraft approaching the country. They put out energy. It's reflected back to the site. They start to know that an airplane is coming, not much information yet. O'BRIEN: All right, and then the next step, once that early- warning radar in play, what happens next? SHEPPERD: Through landlines, the early-warning radar will tell the missile site to begin tracking, and aim their tracking radar in the vicinity of the airplanes. They then track it, and they also turn on the red here, which is a missile-tracking radar before they fire the missile itself. O'BRIEN: So, so far, there are three radar devices involved, so far. Next step in this process, the firing of a surface-to-air missile. What happens then? SHEPPERD: In this case, the surface-to-air missile is fired at the airplane. You can see it fired and you watch it tracking at you, and gets pretty exciting in the cockpit at this time. O'BRIEN: What are you hearing in the cockpit? SHEPPERD: You are hearing a radar-warning receiver that tells you what's coming and where it's coming from. You turn on your own electronic-jamming pod. You throw out chaff. The whole idea is to decoy the missile toward the chaff and then stay away from missile, which has a warhead that can explode on proximity within about 300 feet. O'BRIEN: All then, that black cloud we saw was chaff. It's just aluminum particles... SHEPPERD: Aluminum particles. O'BRIEN: ... send a surface-to-air missile astray. SHEPPERD: Exactly, the missiles homes on the chaff instead of our airplanes. O'BRIEN: Pulling a few Gs in a maneuver like this. SHEPPERD: Indeed. O'BRIEN: All right, let's go the next step here now. Now this a more coordinated approach to the whole thing. We sort of gave you a hypothetical, which isn't really true to form, because you're not talking about one aircraft. It's different. SHEPPERD: Right, a lot more airplanes involved, and by the way, you could have several early-warning sites and three or four missiles shooting at you the same time. All of these are radiating. Now an electronic-jamming aircraft shows up and starts to jams the radars. The radar operators are now confused. Bad things showing up on their scope, their trying to work through it. And the next thing that happens is the following airplane shows up, and this is what we call a SEED, a suppression (UNINTELLIGIBLE) air defense airplanes, and he fires a radar homing missile, a high-speed antiradiation missile that homes in on the radar to take out the missile sites. O'BRIEN: All right, so the issue here is you have a jamming plane. This is your primary, I guess, decoy plane, because it would get things going in some sense, right? Not really, this is not a decoy necessarily . It's an airplane that's trying to get to a target while these people are trying to prevent him from it. SHEPPERD: All right, great. That's General Don Shepperd, giving us a sense of how these sorts of situations occur. Let's take a quick look at some of the bomb damage assessment photos, if you will. That's what they call them, and those give you a sense of some of the targets. First of all, surface-to-air missile installation, this is typical layout here, isn't it? You see those spokes that coming out of there. These are typically guns that are protecting it, correct? O'BRIEN: This is SA-3 site. In the middle, the large thing is the radar, the low-blow radar. The three sites are the missiles, on transporters, erectors, launchers or tells. Each one of them has three missiles on there. The heart is the circle there, which is the radar. You want to take it out first, then the missiles. All right, let's see the after picture and we'll give you a sense of what happened. Looks like a successful one, doesn't it? SHEPPERD: Yes, looks to me like it's all like all blown away. Probably one B-2 sortie targeting on all four of those intended points of impact. O'BRIEN: Once those radar sites, those surface-to-air missile sites are down, you are able to engage in other targets, and of course chief among them airfields. SHEPPERD: Exactly. O'BRIEN: Give us a sense of the airfields that they would have gone after, and exactly -- this is typical airfield here. This particular one is in Shindand, and take a look at these craters here. And it Doesn't look like damage from here, but this is going to will shutdown this airfield, isn't it? SHEPPERD: It really is. What you've got here, this is south of Herat, and basically the airfield there, the impacts are designed to keep airplanes from being able to taxi to, or land on, or operating from the runway. They can be repaired fairly quickly, so that we can take the airfield and operate from it, or it can be rebuilt for humanitarian purposes or the use of the Afghan people after the war. O'BRIEN: So far, general, this has the feel of the early days of the air war over the Gulf. Things are going to start to change rapidly, aren't they. SHEPPERD: It's a microcosm of the Gulf. Next perhaps comes some ground operations that we've been talking about early this morning. O'BRIEN: But that's where things will depart from what we're familiar with, if you're using the Gulf as an example. SHEPPERD: Exactly. O'BRIEN: So far, when you say, the Pentagon says "air superiority," what does really mean? SHEPPERD: People get the idea that air superiority, nothing will happen anymore in the air. What it means is you can operate around- the-clock, both day and night, and it's still very dangerous. A missile can show up at anytime, and you want to stay at high altitude, out of the guns, out of the shoulder-fired missiles, so it's still a sky in Afghanistan, even though we can operate at will, anytime of the day or night we wish. O'BRIEN: All right, some important context and depth here. TO ORDER A VIDEO OF THIS TRANSCRIPT, PLEASE CALL 800-CNN-NEWS OR USE OUR SECURE ONLINE ORDER FORM LOCATED AT http://www.fdch.com

I was practicing to decoy the missiles in Lock On and found it hard to do. I did a research on “Missile Countermeasures” and found some good stuff. I hope you will find it useful. Chaff Illumination Chaff denotes small strips of metal (or glass fibres coated with metal) which are cut so that their length equals half of the wavelength of a radar's signal. This makes each piece a dipole antenna with quite impressive reflecting properties. As the history of radar has shown, chaff is quite successful against an unsophisticated radar but nowadays is rather limited in its efficiency if applied in its pure form. But things are different if an aircraft under attack launches a chaff cloud and an on-board rearward-pointing antenna starts re-transmitting an incoming radar signal at it. That is, the chaff cloud is used as a mirror (a very blurred mirror, but a mirror), and the missile-seeker is presented with a strong false target and will switch over to homing in on the brightly-lit cloud of chaff. Rapid Bloom Chaff (RBC) creates a "cloud" to decoy a missile (Courtesy aerospaceweb.org) Radar chaff is a passive electronic countermeasure in the form of metal strips that are ejected either from an aircraft, ship or rocket. Chaff is ejected from an aircraft, much like a flare, and it creates a cloud of material that looks like a big radar target to an RF missile. The missile either goes after the larger target, or the target can be obscured by the cloud of chaff. Chaff was first used during World War II when the Royal Air Force, under the code name "Window," dropped bales of metallic foil during a night bombing raid in July 1943. The bales of foil were thrown from each bomber as it approached the target. The disruption of German AAA fire control and ground control intercept (GCI) radars rendered these systems almost totally ineffective. Based on this early success, chaff employment became a standard bomber tactic for the rest of the war. Another good link….. http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/electronics/q0191.shtml

Thanks man I really appreciate it. :thumbup:

can anybody tell me were can i get the addons for FS 2004? Im talking about staff like that...... http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/en52/900/

hey guys where do u get the addons for FS 2004? I sow many plains, wich were not in standard release

by the way, i was using chaff to decoy it and did not manuver too hard.....

This staff is brilliant......!!!!

Yes, that is what usually happens; it finds me mach faster with the afterburn

I have been practicing to avoid AIM-120 in lock on, and it seems to me that this missal reacts on my afterburn, because when I use it, it is harder to lose the missal. Any ideas about it????.............

When we will be able to do cabra like that on our Flankers in lock on? Im not takling about "K" key... And landing was prety cool !

looks nice.... http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/en52/900/

maaaan!......I thought that i had bad connection!!! have seen that couple times and think it should be fixed.

what do u mean "warping or beaming", and what is the difference? ....sorry for poor English....

Ok, so, switching ECM on and off rapidly will brake the lock, right? I thought this tactic should work on big distance, where the radar can’t get a good signal because of the ECM, but I could not lock this guy even in close air combat !

By the way, about BF2, in multiplayer we can fly the choppers with someone else, I mean two players. One guy fly, another shoots. Why can’t we have something in Black Shark? Would be grate if ED could add some two seat choppers, KA-52, MI-28, AH-64, cobra?

I still don't get how they do that. Not long time ago I was in HiperLoby and went had to had with one guy. My Su-27 was followed by another Su-27, teammate, on a short distance. I don't know what aircraft we were facing. Every time I locked him, lock was broken. Than I start hiring the "biping" warning of incoming missal or missals and still could not lock him.:cry: The lock was staying for one second and then gone. Same my teammate. We got pretty close, because I was able to see enemy's aircraft clearly enough and that was the last picture that I saw in that air combat. Display changed, and instead of blue sky with the clouds I saw Maikop or Novorossiysk airfield, from birds-fly altitude!:) I asked the teammate how was he, and he sad that he was able to hold the lock for couple seconds and send this stealth down to the ground.:thumbup: They went guns almost! Now just one little question, how do the do that? How they brake the lock with the ECM? :helpsmilie:

"sushka" and "mig"---one "suchki" and "migi"-----many

hey guys, what means "semi-active radar" ?

THANK YOU FOR HEPL EVERYBODY, I knew i will find answers here!! :thumbup:

RADAR SEEKER and radar transmitter is the same thing?

I have red in lock on manual " Active Radar Homing (ARH). Active systems have their own radar seekers built into the missile. (R-77, AIM-120, AIM-54) " ........:book: own radar seeker means -"radar"? like our jets have ( mig-29, su-27,33, F-15) ?????? if not, what is RADAR SEEKER???:helpsmilie: thank you for reply