Winger

Hey guys. I only have some subjective impression so far. I by accident erased all my frikkn DCS settings when reinstalling windows. I flew just a little and had set everything to almost maxed in my Varjo aero. Everything was smooth. Without having done any benchmarks its feels extremely smooth. HAve to tune down resolution because i can hardly spot distant contacts when my Varjo is set to 39ppd and Fovea area is stet to 1.4 Dots get too tiny for my old eyes;) But performance was nice. Very well playable and no stuttering whatsoever.

CPU arrived today. So ill be switching platforms today. Cross your fingers i can switch without reinstalling everything. Depends on how the switch goes when i can give a summary.

For me with m current 14900k ITS Not the 4090 that makes the bottleneck. I am getting CPU bound pretty huge amount of the time

I Have a Gigabyte Aorus Water Force 360 AIO

i ordered a Gigabyte AORUS Pro ICE AMD X870E Its 347,- here in Germany. Also I added a 2TB Corsair MP700 PRO SE - SSD - PCI Express 5.0 x4 (NVMe) for 326,- Now i only have to wait for the 9800X3D to become available. I saw a review that said the older X870 Chipsets would be as capable while being a tad cheaper. But i decided to pay the few bucks more to have everything the newest technology. Who knows what software development can make in regards to added performance on the newer chipset later on Now i only have to hide the boxes from my girl when they arrive;P

Found a buyer for my 14900k So i'll definately Go 8900x3d Could Take a while for me to do Tests cause i have <profanity>ty Internet and Reinstall, If necessary, will Take a while

I think i'll Just wait for the Embargo lift on the 9800x3d and See how IT compares to the 14900k. Then i'll decide. My guess IS that IT will BE Worth IT. Especially since i will have the Option to Upgrade Further with the bigger x3ds next year. And the Upgrade wont BE that Bad for my wallet since i will get a few hubdred buck for the 14900k and board

Good Idea. If qe can find someone with a 7800x3d, 64gb RAM and a 4090 we can both Run Same ingame Benchmark (If there is one) and compared results.thw Thing is the whole Setup would have to AS Close to eachother AS possible Including Background taska Like process Lasso and Things Like that

HEy mate. Thanks for your detailed opinion. I will wait for the independent reviews and then see. I might at all wait for the big brothers of the 9800X3D to come out and do one big upgrade together with the RTX 5090

Did anyone do benchmarks to compare these 2 CPUs in a more recent version of DCS? Since my rig is running CPU bound most of the time and the new Intel CPUs are obviously junk in gaming i am thinking about upgrading my 14900k to a 9800X3D Since there arent any benchmakrs for the 9800X3D at all yet i would love to know if anyone compared the 7800x3D vs the 13900 or 14900k more recently and can give me some informed, more recent clue of what to expect IF i do this CPU switch. I found a youtube vid with benchmarking on the 7800X3D Vs the 12900k but the video is quite old and things might have changed.

the one kit that was in stock has sold. Now available to order with a production time of around 3 weeks.

Hey Billy! I am very Happy that you are Happy with my Service Mate. Have fun flying with the Monster

will do. One still in stock

One Kit will be ready to Ship mid week. Gimbal is PA12 laser sintered color black. CNC connector. Housing Matte black 100% infill prusament PETG. Fotos added to main post.

PM due to wall of text: Short form: Both are awesome and will raise your level of immersion to new heights. There has literally not been a single guy that i know that tried a FFB Bbase and didnt want one right thereafter;) One has a higher pricepoint and therefor delivers more force. Other than that both use the same VPForce TelemFFB software.

Yes. All Ikea Style. Patience and Basic Tools needed. PM sent

Hi Folks, Based on the awesome Work of @TheAmazingGreat (thanks for your permission to use your Work AS a Base) I made some slight changes and am offering a VPForce MONSTER Rhino Kit sourcing service. The "Thing" kit has the following Specs: - Gimbal printed from A) STANDARD ISSUE - PETG-CF or B) PREMIUM ISSUE - laser sintered PA12. - Grip-Connector Lasersintered PA12 (Compatible to the original VPForce CNC Aluminium Upgrade one). - Housing printed from 100% infill PETG on high quality Bambu printers. - XT60 Power connector. - Metal Ruthex threaded Inserts. - Heavy duty High Performance internal Power cables and high quality emergency Stop Button. - Utilizes the highest power available VPForce Motor Kit (86BLF04) - needs to be ordered separately from VPForce. Due to the high price of the components of the PREMIUM ISSUE Gimbal This version ineds to be preordered. Deliverytime is around 3 Weeks. STANDARD ISSUE (PETG-CF) Gimbal Versions will be in stock more often and new stock will be announced frequently. So in case you were thinking about something like this, want something little stronger or just want to have some more headroom before cooling kicks in but do'nt have the time or do'nt want to have the hassle to source all screws/Cables/bits & pieces, then - PM me for price Info and Order. Here are some Images how the MONSTER looks when assembled and complete.' Force measured to pull to full back at the grip connector: 10,2 Kg. Force measured to pull to full back at the trigger of an attached warthog grip: 5,5 Kg. Amps pulled with this gear ratio 26. So there is stil some headroom with some more agressive gear ratio. UPDATE: The base no comes as preassembled base. Bottom and front lid are only loosely installed so the effort for finishing the base is minimal on the customerside. Image of the built Base is earlier Iteration and Lacks small tweaks Like cosmetics rework of Fan openings and added stabilizers. Options: PSU Cover for meanwell LRS PSU including XT60 cable and necessary screws Beltcovers. Both at slight upcharge.

Hey. It will probably not become available as a kit because the parts are quite costly alltogether. I will consider building one for individuals on order for a reasonable buiding fee. I am not entirely sure about that yet.

I second what Hiob said. I also used a 20cm S extension by VPC with my Rhino and was very happy with it. There is always the option of the MONSTER RHINO if you want more force...

this thread is FFB related in general - correct? OH its not. Deleting... SORRY! That was not intentional! Apologies GVL. Did not mean to highjack! My bad! Argh

replied. Sorry for the late response mate. We can fix you up. Kaltokri has a fresh batch of kits ready i think.

Hey Chris! I am glad you like the kit and everything worked out without Problems. Also glad you love FFB. As a dedicated passionate simmer, what else can you do with such a bunch of extra immerson but loving it? I for my part really could'nt go back to non FFB. Best regards, thanks for our feedback and fly safe! Winger

here you go Assembly.pdf Thanks for chiminig in Hiob! Much apprechiated! @Greekbull Dont worry. Youll love the rhino with the motors its supposed to be built with. So much i can guarantee you;) All you need is the Winger/Kaltokri Kit, The VPForce Motor kit, a PSU, some basic tools and a few hours of patience. Thats all that keeps you from flying your favourite aircaft with unprecedented immersion within the next 2 weeks;) EDIT: If you wan to raise your immersionlevel even more (if you have either TM TPR-Pedals or MFG Crosswinds), then you can go for a VPForce mod on these. Kaltokri is AFAIK working on offering kits for both. 3D print parts will be same quality as the parts that come with our Rhino kit. Pedals kits will be PETG-CF 100% for maximum durability.

I got messaged When i Had WTB Post Open poibting me into the direcrion of a Guy that suppoaedly has the Item i am looking for for Sale. Hilarous Stories and my Hope to Not be scammed and make a fair Deal cost me 150,- bucks. Thankfully i learned this lesson Kind of cheap. Not to Imagine spending much more on a device and getting ripped Off. At least i reported the PayPal Account owner AS a scammer. Dunno If that die anything to protect Others people from at least this Guy. I Made a Post Here When this happened. IT helps to make clear you dont PayPal without buyers protection. Scammers wont try IT then.

I got scammed Here once as Well. There is one fuc*er trying to RIP Off people presenting Always a different Story. NEVER Pay without buyers protection!