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Gman109
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And think of how much more superior our air forces would be if they could just turn their heads 20 degrees and see behind them? “serious sim”or game?
All jokes aside different strokes for different folks! I love the Sa in an airquake style server but on a server with a more “global” style conflict, I never even see who shoots me. Picking out aircraft at a distance without tags is an absolute sticking point. That said, if I want to watch wings on a monitor, ill boot up youtube! Agree to disagree and move forward.
Cheers
Like I said, VR can't simulate peripheral vision, which is critical to pilots' ability to see in the rear quarter/6. You only need to get your head/neck to about 4 or 8 oclock position, your peripheral vision will take care of the next clock positions (you can see this in your aforementioned Youtube videos in any video of a fighter pilot doing BFM and tracking visual range threat aircraft that are behind him).
So far as dot/spotting distance, agree absolutely, I have 3 different monitors that all give differing results/advantage depending on what settings and resolutions I run them at (native or otherwise), from 27" to 34", 1080p up to 4k, etc. And like you said, it depends on what type of online flying one is doing, air quake/dueling or a more realistic type of PvP like say Blue Flag, where VR isn't nearly as much of a disadvantage as on a dueling/dogfight server.
I'm sure not giving up VR, and will continue to use it for the majority of my DCS flying.
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I have several pairs of peds - CH pedals x3, Saitek Combat pedals x 2, Simpeds, VKB pedals, Slaw 109Cam pedals, MFG xwind, and Slaw RX Viper pedals, among others.
While MFG are good pedals, claiming they are the "best" is a bit of a stretch right now IMO with the Slaw Viper RX out there, and the Virpil peds as well.
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I've had every VR headset, several of each in fact, except the XTAL. Still using VR, both the Rift S and Reverb.
That said, for doing PvP competitively online (particularly 1v1 dueling with SRM and especially guns), IMO you're at a massive disadvantage in VR versus TrackIR. Not so much because of the resolution, but because of how much more difficult and slower it is to look behind your 3-9 line. I've heard many in the VR forum say this is "nonsense". Anyone who wants to prove they can beat me, or say Growlingsidewinder/etc using TrackIR with their VR headset on, PM me and show me how.
VR is great, but for competitive online play, IMO it's a big disadvantage when you get into visual range fights. Swivel chairs and all the other "tricks" simply can't make up for the speed and ease TrackIR users can simulate looking back and tracking the threat. Peripheral vision, which in r/l allows the eyes to make up for that last 20 or 30 degrees the neck/head can't turn, isn't modeled in VR (yet) either.
I do 3/4 of my DCS flying in VR still - but when it comes time to fly online PvP, the Reverb gets parked, and the TiR goes on. For now. To each their own, but I agree with most in this thread, that VR is a must have - I only state the limitations it still has with regards to being competitive in online PVP duels IMO.
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Redgum, check the used sections online in your country's Craigslist/Kijiji type outfits. I have a dozen places here in Canada as wells as various flight sim forums that I check daily (I've collected Hotas since the 90s). I recently found a brand new, like the twist ties never unwound, CH FighterStick and CH Throttle for $25 USD delivered. This would be perfect for you IMO, something along those lines/prices, and then buy a pair of VKB Pedals (the best bang/buck in custom pedals IMO, and someday if you upgrade your HOTAS they'll still serve you well).
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Same experience with VR Optician, very happy with the lenses.
I added the blue filter. I have large spherical correction 5.25/4.0, so it was more expensive but definitively worth their price.
I too have a medium-ish astigmatism in my right eye, which increased the cost from 99 to 122$ CAD, but IMO this is still an extremely good price and value for these lenses. Considering I paid MORE from 2 other makers, which provided a vastly inferior product, I'm very satisfied with the cost to value ratio that this company provides. Must have IMO for any VR user that needs near sighted correction, and should be budgeted into any VR purchase, again IMO. The Rift S has been the only headset that my glassed fit comfortably in, the Reverb is awful on that count for me.
Chapa - have you any experience with lenses without the added Blue filter they offer, in order to compare what it's like with or without it? Even if not, could you perhaps expand a bit on how that Blue/filter option is? I've not gotten it on any of the lens sets I've purchased, and now I'm wondering if I should email them and get them to add it to my current order which is just beginning it's process.
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+1, I've had prescription lens inserts from 3 different companies for 6 different headsets now, and VR Opticians is by FAR the best to deal with. Best comms, they sent me a link within a day of ordering each time to track the progress of my lenses, and their product IMO is superior - big time - to the competition.
As Vince Offer from Shamwow says - You know the Germans make "good stuff".
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I just got a VFX grip, and am having a similar problem with the set screw (the non twist was out of stock, boo). The set screw is very deep, as it should be as per the pics in this thread, but it's not catching the stick, and it still twists freely, without the point of the set grub screw making contact at all. It's not cross threaded, I'm using a very good driver, but if I push any harder/further it's going to strip it, or possibly break/crack the stick. It literally won't go any further, and it's not locking the twist.
Anyone know what size of set screw grub/whatever the silver/metal colored screw is, so I can try and find a longer one locally? From Virpil forums it looks like support is pretty busy/overwhelmed right now, and this will be a pretty low priority I'll bet, and I'd like to try and fix this myself. All I need is the M1/M2/whatever number for the set screw, and I'll order/find one myself that is longer and will work (hopefully).
Edit - fixed this, thought I'd post my experience in case anyone else has a similar issue as me and the other in this thread. There is two cylinder sections this set screw most go through to lock the stick. What happened with mine is that they weren't lined up quite perfectly, so the set screw would stop/get stuck prior to the tip hitting the metal/black cylinder part it needed to in order to lock. I took the stick apart to see what has happening, re assembled it, and just wiggled the stick left/right about 1/2 a MM or so (twist action movement basically) while gently backing off/moving forward the set screw until it started moving through the 2nd cylinder, and driving about another 2 or 3mm further than where it got stuck for me at first. Then it locked up perfectly as it should. If anyone else here at DCS has a similar problem in the future, PM me as I have vid/pics of what happened with mine which will help, including disassembly/etc of the stick. Now it's locked, what a great F14 stick this is.
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Nineline/ED, that's a crazy amount of projects. Very ambitious, I like it. Can't wait for all of the things listed today, it's pretty mind bending the number of new products coming, not to mention the new aircraft modules in the works.
You keep making it, I'll keep buying it.
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Thanks!
I am extremely pleased with the rig and with the Rift S. I spend many hours a week with that headset on.
Have been since getting it in May, just keeps on working great every time, no muss no fuss.
Ditto, I have the Index, Rift S and Reverb. The Rift S is "bulletproof", or at least has been for me, very simple to set up and run. Occulus has that nailed compared to WMR IMO - plus ask any sim developer, and they much prefer working with the Oculus drivers/etc, much more robust so I'm told. The Rift S isn't as high a res, but it still looks great, in fact I replaced 3 Samsung Odyseey + with 3 Rift S for our gaming PCs back when it came out, and the Rift S surprised me, as based on specs I didn't think it would perform in DCS so well as it does.
Again, while there are higher res options available, I still have no problem enthusiastically recommending the Rift S, especially for first time/newer VR users. Even for $ no object more veteran VR users, the Rift S is still a good option too.
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I see in a similar thread that RAZBAM has acknowledged this bug. Hopefully it's a priority now (it should be), and they can fix it, as it's been very frustrating trying to do Assault Carrier ops. Great module otherwise.
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Agreed, +1 here, and the other 2 sim pilots in our home vote the same. I was so impressed with Heatblur's F14 release, and this JF17 release from Deka has shown that Heatblur's work doesn't have to be a one trick pony in ED's family. Congrats Deka. Every person I know who has bought the JF17 has a similar opinion too.
Fanastic.
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Your absolutely right. We didn't need those either. Deka has said the next module will either be a J-8II F or a Q-5. Personally I'll be thrilled for either.
Wow, both of those were on my wishlist for Deka's next future module. Fantastic if that's correct information! I'd love to see them do a J10 as well, that's a superb modern fighter that would be a great addition to "red air" here in DCS. I'm SO impressed with the work Deka has done with the JF17 - I can't wait to see what they come up with next. They really do have a lot of options, J16 and JH7 for 2 seaters, the J8II F or Q5 as stated, J10, etc.
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This guy. This guy has it going on. I love me my flight sims, but I could never work in development for them. Well, I bailed on development as a whole, so, it doesn't matter! Still, this dude right here knows what is up.
+1. The amount of incredibly hard work/time that goes into developing these simulation games, for an incredibly small market compared to typical AAA games (and even non AAA games)...we're so fortunate to have something like DCS/3rd party devs at all. Do I wish we'd get more complete modules in EA release? Sure, everyone does, but the reality is these companies have business models with very, very slim margins IMO, and ED doing it the way they are right now is very likely to be the only way it's even financially feasible.
Just my opinion, but I'd bet the farm I'm correct that it's either EA or nothing. It would however be nice if EA releases gave more information to the customer about our expectations in terms of time frames/etc on future updates to EA products.
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Beats me what I will get. Now "maybe" friday. So 2 weeks instead of 1-2 days.
The ****ed thing being is that you can sure buy a shiny new one online and have it next day.
Heh, if they were telling me 2 weeks (I've sent back 2 already), I'd be buying one of those new ones, and then do a return immediately once I got it, and send them the broken one back in the box.
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+1, great job ED, keep up the amazing work.
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I'm just read reports and checking benchmarks and calculating performances per $.
I could send you here that much references you will spend the days not hours to watch it all but this one video will describe in the best way what I'm talking about.
That video is using the 2080 Super for the 9900k, and a 2080ti for the Ryzen. I've seen a few instances of any AMD cpu with the same video card being faster in games than the 9900k - but it's not the majority, by far. You're right though that 4k/VR it's very, very close all things being equal other than the CPU.
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I see a few people said NO to the OP question - all opinions are valid here, and I understand why someone would say No, and that a "proper" full HOTAS is almost a requirement for DCS. I said in my first response that the OP would be fine with the setup he mentioned, but it is true he would benefit in the future with a better hotas setup.
To that end, I really highly recommend searching various used markets for a new DCS player like the OP, once he's ready, wiling, and able to get himself into a higher end HOTAS. I've collected hotas since the 1990s, and have several dozen hotas set ups as well as a bunch of stand alone sticks/throttles I've been sent for review and/or bought over the years. I have all the new VKB/Virpil models, 6 custom rudders and 4 factory peds, and will have 2 Hotas/Sticks more once the VKB GF 3/F14 setup is on sale, and my RealSim base gets here.
Based on this experience, IMO the best bet for a new pilot like the OP is to find himself a good used set of CH Products F16 Combat/fighter stick, throttle, and pedals. They aren't absolutely ideal, or the best now, but as an upgrade from the OP's current setup, are an excellent step up, and can be found for very good deals. I've picked off 2 full CH setups in the last year from the sources I check daily here in Canada, one was a F16 Fighterstick/CH throttle combo for $40 CAD, and they were new, as in brand new and not touched (wife's husband had left her and left his PC gaming stuff behind with the house contents). I've seen CH pedals in good condition for $50 CAD. Anyhow, point being, the OP will be able to find something like this with a bit of patience and searching as well, and is again why I strongly suggest searching used markets. CH Products are a good used option, as their price is usually pretty good, and the quality and longevity is good as well. Pre 2006 CH stuff is actually better than the newer stuff, as one CH was bought out that year it went from a company of caring sim workers to a large place that has their stuff made in a mass production company.
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Hey all,
I'm interested in getting DCS Worlds F18 module and learning it, coming from X-Plane 11s more complex addons.
I have good PC with a Rift S which I built for simming, but only the T16000m FCS Hotas without rudder pedals. I don't want to buy rudder pedals just yet (a bit limited on space) but I know this is an incredibly detailed simulation so, how would I fare with the F18 using the paddle rudder on the throttle + VR? I am guessing it'll still be a good immersive experience?
I'm mainly looking to (eventually) fly the multiplayer coop servers, and blue flag events. I know choppers are a no go, same with WW2 birds and things like the F14.
Thanks
Not only will you be fine, some actually prefer a simpler setup for DCS. LOTS of players of all kinds of sims prefer to have a rocker/twist/whatever for rudder axis.
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IMO your best bet is to just buy another TWCS. I've found them for $50 USD on sale and for 20 to 30$ USD used in as new condition. If the Virpil throttle is out of your price range or is overkill, I imagine the TM WH throttle is as well. The only other options really are the CH which you already mentioned, and the TWCS, so far as stand alone throttles go.
I used to be able to luck out and pick off TM Cougar Hotas for $50 to 100 CAD in great condition here in Canada a couple times per year, but it's been 18 months since I've found one that wasn't overpriced. If you can find a Cougar hotas/throttle, grabbing that and picking up a USB adapter is about the only other option I can think of, and will certainly cost more, probably 2x, than what a TWCS will.
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I'd say GFX card first. More RAM should help too. But really everything is the answer. I had a laptop with very similar specs, so no "component" upgrades were possible, and I went to the whole new rig.
If you have the $, my answer is this -
Open window. Pick up PC case. Drop towards foot. Kick hard towards window. Wave as it goes bye-bye out said window. Purchase 9900k and 2080ti like the rest of us pinheads who spend far too much $ on this hobby. The end.
Seriously though - yes, GPU is probably your best bet, by some margin, but I don't think swapping to a faster CPU in that MB/platform will yield all that much of an improved performance either. IMO I agree with others that a 1080ti used is probably the best option bang for buck wise if you want to upgrade anything with that system.
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If TM made a new and better gimbal for the stick, I would. I have 2 complete TM WH hotas and 2 more WH sticks/bases. Every base but one which is essentially new, I've had to tear apart and service. TM's support is a thumbs down from me, but the metal stick and throttle are decent IMO. Gimbal - not so much.
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I've got a lot of hotas already, but just recently decided to give the Realsimulator FSSB R3 L a whirl anyhow, mainly due to the Falcon module coming so soon. Still figuring it out, but it's fantastic so far as an F16 type stick goes. The only similar stick I have is the X65F, and it's miles ahead of that so far as I can tell with about 3 hours total using it thus far. I was lucky and found my R3 used, very little time on it, probably just a handful of hours from a player who couldn't get used to it for a WW2 online MMO sim.
You may want to PM Deano87, he gave me the initial advice and info regarding the R3 L/Realsim, and he and many he flies with have been using this stick for much, much longer than I have, and can give you a better run down on what to expect. IMO so far as getting the most realistic hotas setup for the upcoming Falcon module here with DCS, it's the best option for the stick. I'm going to use one of my modded Cougar F16 throttles with a usb adaptor for my throttle. the R3 L for the stick, and probably my Slaw pedals for my F16 hotas setup myself.
Anyhow, PM Deano87 or search his user name and look at some of the threads where he's posted info here already, that's your best bet IMO.
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I had a similar problem, same exact symptoms, neither Windows or Virpil software would see my buttons, by the axis worked (sort of, but it worked). Same exact scenario too, I went with a T50 CM 1 stick on a WH base, to a first gen when they first came out T50 base, and then put the original Virpil T50 CM1 Stick on the new Virpil base.
What had happened was the pins in the connectors sort of "formed" or "got used to" the Warthog connector plug, which was slightly different with a bit different tolerances, so one of the pins in my new Virpil base/stick wouldn't connect right. I pulled out the stick cable about an inch or so, so I could physically see how it was connecting to the new Virpil base. Then I straightened the pins out a bit, re plugged it good and solid into the Virpil base, and then the buttons and axes (everything) started to work again properly.
Not saying this is your problem, but I suggest taking your Virpil stick off your new Virpil base, have a good look at the pins/connector, even take a pic or vid of it and post it here if you can - and then try what I said or ask Virpil to walk you through that (they told me how to do this, but it's simple, just gently pull the plug on the stick out a short bit to give it some slack).
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I really like this stick now - I much prefer to have my analogue mini stick on my dominant hand/stick side, as for me it's much more accurate than trying to move it with my left hand/thumb on a throttle. I have the other available Virpil sticks including a couple of the Delta's, but I find the Delta's aren't set up that great for simming, more for space/Star Citizen, and the analogue stick is easy enough to reach, but the center/top hat isn't even with pretty large hands.
So, this stick fits the bill for me, more of a sim setup than the Delta, and has the analogue hat in a perfect spot IMO. I'll be buying one at least, plus the F14 stick whenever it comes out too.
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Agreed, IMO Slaw's construction materials, design, and attention to detail is the best among all custom rudder pedals makers (and mass produced such as the TM pedals as well). I haven't gotten a set of the new Virpil pedals as of yet though, as the highest level model they sell is still out of stock, but that's the only set out there really out of those currently used and common that I haven't tried and compared yet.
Slaws do cost a lot of $$$ though, but dealing with him is easy, good comms, and relatively straightforward banking instructions (you have to do a xfer, no paypal or credit card, but that's NBD in my experience).