steve2112

i've never tried but it should work i think. you would need to make 2 config files (one for each hardware id) and run remapper twice. let me know how it works out if you try it.

oh right, i wrote it for a 101 key keyboard, i see your point about using scan codes, and yes, there is a problem with not having a comment line, i can fix that easy i just fixed it and added the entering of a scan code, as always see http://www.2112design.com/blog/multi-keyboard-remapper/ for instructions UPDATE: I just realized that what i did isn't 100% of what's needed to use keys that ar'nt on the standard 101 key keyboards, but i'll add that today. another update, version 0.005 should let you enter scan codes for numpads, etc. but i don't have one so its a little hard to me 100% sure so please let me know. thx

try these NumEnter X test Backspace Y test works for me. i just put a new version up .002 that shows what config lines were scanned ok so you can check at startup. not sure about using the scancode for key selection, i may make a GUI to make it easier to configure anyhow. by the way 'Backspace on my numpad'?, i don't have that, only the one Backspace key. steve

Here is the very first release of my multi keyboard remapper. http://2112design.com/downloads/remapper0.001.zip For the latest updated notes and stuff, see http://www.2112design.com/blog/multi-keyboard-remapper/. I don't feel like updating this for every change. This tools allows you to plug in a second keyboard (and maybe more, I've not tried it), and re-map any key to any other key on the second keyboard only, i.e. no messing up your primary keyboard. The remapped keys can be shifted, controlled, alt'ed, windows'ed with either left or right side meta keys. This tool should work for any application or game. It runs for sure on windows 10 64 bit and I assume lower versions of windows (64 bit); no mac, don't ask. unzip the folder and place it somewhere on your computer. First, you must run install-interception. This tool must be run from an administrator command line. You must run cmd as administrator. The easiest way to do that is in your windows search box, type 'cmd' then right click on it and choose 'Run as administrator. Then cd to where you put the remapper folder. Then run install-interception without arguments to receive instructions. After you install and do the necessary reboot your system, look at the a10c_remapper.txt file. This is an example of what you need to create. Then you need to find the hardware ID for your second keyboard. Easiest way is to run remapper.exe with no args. but here's the thing, YOU MUST TYPE THE COMMAND FROM THE KEYBOARD YOU WANT TO REMAP. It will print the hardware ID of the keyboard you hit enter on. Note that you do not need to run cmd as admin for remapper to work, so a standard cmd shell is ok. Then right click in the cmd window and select 'Mark', then select that hardware ID, then Ctrl-C to copy it. Next, create a .txt config file or edit mine. The first line MUST be the hardware id. So paste your hardware id into the first line. See a10c_remapper.txt for an example. The lines following the hardware id are key mappings for that keyboard. The format is simple input_key remapped_key comment Where: - input_key is almost any key on your keyboard, except Print screen, Pause, Escape, Function and Num lock. The format is taken from the here [ame]http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/w/images/2/21/Dcsa10c-keybindings.pdf[/ame] NOTE YOU CANNOT ENTER THINGS LIKE 'S-B' IN REMAPPER ON THE LEFT SIDE. Only one press, unmodified keys are supported as an input key. - remapped_key is the key you want to output, i.e. remap to. Again, the format is taken from [ame]http://en.wiki.eagle.ru/w/images/2/21/Dcsa10c-keybindings.pdf[/ame] Left Shift S- Right Shift rS- Left Meta/Alt A- Right Meta/Alt rA- Left Control C- Right Control rC- Left Windows W- Right Windows rW- note that i’m lazy, you can do combinations of shift, ctrl, etc but they must be in the sequence, shift – control – alt – windows, so for example, in DCS a10c, View enemies mode rC-rS-End, the remap must be entered as rS-rC-End. - comment is not used but maybe someone might make something to create a printable keyboard label sheet based on this data. If interested, let me know, i'll send you the source code to what I have. So, to run the remapper, simple type 'remapper.exe a10c_remapper.txt' (you can make a .bat file to make it faster) Then you can test by opening notepad or something and hit a key on your remapped keyboard and you should see the new keys come up. You should also see that the same key on your main keyboard is what is should be. For testing like this, stick to remapps that use only unmodified or shifted keys since ctrl and alt will not show up in notepad. Notice that if you didn't add a remap a key to the config file on your remap keyboard, the key will act as normal. Then that's it, open DCS and your old keyboard that you've had laying in a scrap parts box for years, can see new life as a DCS input device. remapper will work for any game or program by the way, not just DCS, its a general purpose remapper. I just put this together since 9am this morning and its 5:30 now, so not a lot of testing has gone into it, but based on the price, I figure you can't complain. Just reply to the thread if you need me to fix something. I've barely used it myself yet, but don't plan to make a career out of this, so don't expect too much. Note that this project is based on http://www.oblita.com/interception.html. This package does all the magic shit, I just put a control application and config format together. Steve

yep, i noticed that too. none commercial looks ok, GPL license. i guess i'll be giving it away anyhow. i'm not going to make it too clever then, with a config tool, keyboard labels printer, etc. i'll make it with a simple text basic mapping file and figure out how to print your own keyboard labels. there must be a MS word template around for that somwehere?

good news, i just wrote a little app using interception so map my x key to g key on the second keyboard only and it works in DCS, so the rest of it is just a SMOP (simple matter of programming). i'll write a tool to allow a second keyboard to be remapped to any keys you want. should only take a couple of days i hope. only glitch is, i read his license docs and i'm not sure but looks like i'm supposed to pay him $2200 license fee to use it. i need to re read all the legalese i guess. can't be bothered right now.

this is very strange, i'm trying to assign a sequence of keys to a button, F1 followed by numpad 5, so should go back to cockpit mode and recenter the display. so in the profile editor i select 'new macro' and then press F1 and then numpad 5. try it in test profile, looks ok, profile the stick, try in dcs, only the F1 works, it doesn't recenter. so i select the macro and select set delay of 1 sec to see what's going on. try in test, i see F1 then after 1 sec numpad 5, profile the stick and try again, F1 works but numpad 5 doesn't. this is driving me nuts. any ideas anyone? thx

old thread but i'm in the same boat, don't like all the random panning in facetreacknoir (maybe i should get trackir but not convinced) so i tried LCtrl+] which works but then that's too slow. you'd think there was a parameter somewhere to control it?

that inception thing i linked above looks interesting, easy to use and current so i'm going to break out my MSVC and do a bit of coding, see if i can get a simple example to work in DCS.

its running now, i guess when i first went to the module manager i didn't notice the install popup box. anyhow i tried again, hit the install and its ok now

interesting. i have written programs for input and output emulation before, maybe i'll take a crack at writing a simple 2nd keyboard remapping tool. looks like several people might be interested in trying it. this is interesting https://autohotkey.com/board/topic/81216-distinguish-two-keyboards-what-works-best-as-of-now/ and this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/31224761/how-to-write-a-program-that-intercepts-input-before-it-reaches-the-kernel http://www.oblita.com/interception.html

interesting idea about the pickey switch, i'll try that, thanks

i just had and idea and don't know if anyone is doing it or if its even technically possible in windows. i'd like to plug in a second keyboard BUT on the second keyboard i want to remap all the keys to DCS commands, LCtrl+C for example. then i would physically label that key 'canopy' for example does anyone make software that allows that? i'm not even sure windows can differentiate between keyboard so not sure if its possible

i don't think DCS provides a programmer API like FSX and falconBMS does which is unfortunate. the other thing i've always dreamed of building is a full motion simulator, but that needs to get real time roll/pitch/yaw etc from the game and again, i don't think DMS supports that

its an LG 43UF77 but i expect they are all pretty much the same. i took my PC into the store and plugged it in and checked everything worked ok with DCS before buying just to be sure. i suggest anyone do that. i see the msrp is $1699 on that, i paid 22000 thai baht which is about $612 so i think i did ok

hi, i just bought the a10-c from the steam store, downloaded and activated it on steam versions and its running fine. but i want to run on DSCW1.5 so i downloaded a10-c from the dcs torrent site, installed it, then copied the C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft/A-10C folder to C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Mods\aircraft i bound my activation key in the dcs license website to my account and in DCSW1.5 i check the module manager, installed and check the key on A-10C and looks ok. but when i go into an A-10C mission, i just get the start up map screen, no way to get into the game. any ideas please? thx

sorry my bad, working fine, how do i delete this thread? thx steve

this looks very cool, i'll give it a go, but what about the RWR? is it not possible to put that on your screen. also, Mr. ergn, i've been looking for info about a developer API for DCS but found nothing. are there some docs somewhere? i'm interested in flying a plane from an external app but need real time data like roll, pitch, speed, altitude, etc. is there some kind of API where i can get that stuff like there is a shared memory area in falconBMS? thx steve

you mean the HUD only mode? yep i guessed that from the youtube videos, i guess most people like to see the inside of the cockpit, more realistic

i'm guessing the lack of response means its a no. shame, it would be really useful.

so i've got my DCS rig running well. i'm using freetracknoir. its awesome, no head gear required like track IR and its basically free if you have a webcam. and because my monitor is so big and i'm so close, i have about a +/- 30deg FOV in real world so i translate that to +/-180deg camera yaw in the game and i can see everything without taking my eyes off the screen anyhow, in many ways better than my old rift, no uncomfortable head gear, no sim sickness and the resolution is mind blowing, and i'm only using about 60% cpu with all than and voice commands running too.

thanks. i used to fly falconBMS and i wrote a tool that allowed you to fly a circuit automatically from a set of waypoints or stearpoints, including stuff like aileron rolls, etc. then i ran that on my B computer in multiplayer mode and on my A computer i could fly with it. i got it working quite well be had to move onto paying jobs and forgot about it. maybe i'll resurrect it for DCS as i don't bother with falcon anymore i wonder how many people would be interested in that if i made it work?

i know i can save the track and play it back which is cool but i'd like to try making a 2 plane airshow, so i'd like to record my flight track then play it back but still be able to fly along with it. is that possible at all? thx

i just got the tv and it looks amazing, its actually 43" and i'm sitting about 2' (60-70cm) away and it looks very immersive. the clarity is fantastic, especially when low flying close the ground. frame rate is good, looks like i'm getting 60fps. DCS has done an amazing job with the terrain graphics, just blows FSX and BMS out of the virtual sky.

i installed FC3 on DCSW1.2 and its working fine (the ED version i mean). it didn't even ask me for a key, i guess it knew the steam FC3 key was already installed