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Hello,
We tried a multiseat fly on Mirage F1 BE
I joined a Mirage F1 BE in rear seat, the plane was already moving on taxi.
The problem : Instruments in rear seat were all off and no engine sound ( same state has before starting engine.. )
Then when the pilot has take off,
Engine sound just started and instruments become alive one by one while flying... strange !
When the pilot landed, the engine sound stopped and instruments too, as when i joined the rear seat
Taxi in rear seat seem to have bug ?
We didn't met such problem in previous version of DCS
How to reproduce :
- start a Mirage F1 BE as a pilot
- then an instructor join the rear seat : no sound, no instrument and sound alert ...
- take of : synchronization start
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Hello,
True,
I had to disable HT in the first release of MT in 2023
"give a try " was intended for player that met stutters at this time to test that option ( i was not alone ... ), not a recommandation.
From few release after summer,
i remade some test with a bench track and it was better with HT ON ( but with no shadow )
Now with the last release delivered in Feb 2024,
DCS is very smooth and i could have increment resolution in VR in my quest 2 ( x1.3 ) : great !
On 3/18/2024 at 9:36 PM, Igor4U said:Bada Bing - Bada Boom: No more Stuttering in 2.9 - FIXED !
Have an Older Machine (refurbing as a Gift to an Intrepid Young Aspiring Fighter Pilot all of 13 years old) that was Top-of-the-Line some 10 Years Ago (Haswell 4790K Devil's Canyon, Gen9 Big Maxwell Titan-X, 32 GB RAM) still running DCSW at 80-100 fps (@ 2560x1440) but started stuttering badly with release of 2.9.
Have followed a Dozen Possible Leads to No Avail - until I hit on Turning On Hyper-Threading (Thanks to the Gentleman's Posts below). Back in the Day, primarily Single-Threaded Flight Sims recommended turning Hyper-Threading OFF to improve Performance. That's where my BIOS setting Stayed Since Then (HT OFF), But reading the Advice Below - Turned HT Back On and Bada Bing - Bada Boom ! Now Smooth as Silk - Most Excellent !
This Malady (Stuttering) seemed fairly widespread with release of 2.9 - I'm surprised that Eagle Dynamics didn't release an Advisory Note on that (Stuttering) when 2.9 got Pushed Out - I guess HT-On is the Current Standard, and they (didn't anticipate) failed to Test and Identify that Problem - so we was on our Own by Trial & Error.
And I can't figure Out why there'd be stuttering when the Frames are cranking out at 80-100 fps ?? Somebody lot smarter than 'Moi' Knows - but they aint Saying !
But Pretty Happy the Stutters are Gone
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TANKs for the Idea - Reference where Credit is Due:
By Mateo
October 27, 2023 in Game Performance Bugs
2.9 (after update )massive stuttering/image freeze for 1-3 sec all time even at LOW settings
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/336422-29-after-update-massive-stutteringimage-freeze-for-1-3-sec-all-time-even-at-low-settings/I have noticed improvement when I set my hyperthread in BIOS to enable. It is strange for me, usually hyperthread make things worse, but now during simple test I have notice improvement that is worth for ED to pay attention. It shows that my stuttering is probably CPU related. During my test one of core go to nearly 100% usage. I disabled that core and re-enabled during the gameplay, in effect stutters were gone again, and CPU usage was average on all cores.
If some of you have the ability to hyperthred your CPU, it might be worth a try.
BUT - This Feller Improved (In VR) when HT was Turned OFF - Go Figure ???????????
By fab.13
March 13, 2023 in VR Bugs
Disable HyperThreading reduce stutter a lot, give a try.
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/321514-mt-version-disable-hyperthreading-reduce-stutter-a-lot-give-a-try/-
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Hello
interesting…
You got a bench method of your DCS machine
I’ll test that on my side
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Stutters could have a windows root cause
Flappie has written in this forum all windows settings to allow best DCS VR experience
about DCS, try ´vr settings’ tab or lowest settings ( texture resolution and AA technics to off , no shadow )
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On my side, i launch DCS from the shortcut on monitor screen (DCS mt version) and not from within the headset …
check that you are using the DCS multithread version
now you get an error, you shoukd provide the DCS log to DCS support, or post here too
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Maybe vram caching, so not managed by DCS itself
Anyway, if your game experience is good and better with your tunning, don’t look too much at monitoring and play
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Did you try a another VR ( free) Game ( pc vr game with link ) ?
Last time i got black screen in headset was due to agressive settings in link, so i suggest to reset all settings to default and run without external tool or Mod ( no ODT): stock stack
And check that ´unknown source game’ is on in occulus home
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Hello
check OpenXRruntime is enabled in occulus home
reduce bitrate with ODT ( dynamic byte rate should be good as a first choice )
check Windows Swap file is enough ( virtual ram )
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Intel I5 10600k 6 cores 12 threads 5gz 1080ti Quest2 64 GB ram windows 10
I’ll try some quadview settings in a next test
It is not a problem because 2.9 works very well for now ( 72 hz no stutters )
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So Quad View works on Intel I5 10600k 1080ti Quest2
FPS are not as good as without QuadView, maybe missing some CPU power on my rig...( default quad view setting, just turbo mode off )
So i removed it
I prefer settings same as @Chapa ( no AA and Render Resolution Up , very smooth and clear )
@Granny you should be able to test QuadView
The log file of quadview in '...\AppData\Local\Quad-Views-Foveated' indicate it's working
2024-01-26 20:35:53 +0100: Session is using quad views
2024-01-26 20:35:53 +0100: Edge smoothing: 0.20
2024-01-26 20:35:53 +0100: Sharpening: 0.70
2024-01-26 20:35:53 +0100: Turbo: Disabled -
Let’s check the change log of the wiki
I found this chapter about foveated redering and supported graphic cards:
https://mbucchia.github.io/OpenXR-Toolkit/
So i'm confusing Foveated Rendering in OpenXR Toolkit and QuadView
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Hello
QuadView need 2000 nvidia series minimum as indicated in docs when i tried
( tested a long time ago on my 1080ti )
let’s see if a commit has added support to 1000 series
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Hello @Granny
Here my settings from various stack, i'll update it...
BIOS settings:
- XMP and DDR RAM with low latency
- no virtualization
- enable virtual threads ( 6 physical cores -> 12 threads )
- i don't remember everything
Windows 10:
- you need the more RAM & VRAM free and low CPU :
- check with Windows Task Manager, CPU should be under 3 or 4 % ( 1%-2% on my rig ), so disable some services and auto started application you don't need
- check free physical memory while playing DCS ( some mission or mutiplayer server ask nearly 28-30 go RAM )
- disable windows auto update ( it take CPU and Network )
- disable HAGS
- disable XBOX GameBar
- disable memory compression
- disable some MS assistant
- exclude DCS directory from antivirus ( and "saved games\DCS* " too )
- power managment to maximum performances
- disable usb devices power saving
- stop every tool about performance : it take CPU !
- you get a clean windows and nothing more and with CPU load in background and RAM free...
Nvidia Control Panel:
- Specific DCS settings with Power Maximum Performances, textures quality performance, ultra low latency, 1 pre-rendered frame, no msaa, no fxaa ( max perf )
- i don't remember my nvidia driver versionOcculus Debug Tool:
- Specific DCS settings with "low resolution mirror" to 800 * 600, PD to 1.0, fov 0.9 x 0.9 ( depend about your Quest 2 mask )
- Quest Link : Low curvature, enable Dynamic BitRateOcculus HOME:
- quest setting resolution to 1.2
- check cable link speed ( i get 2.5 gb with a standard usb-c cable )DCS:
- DCS OpenBeta stock with no mods
- start with "VR Settings" : every textures low, no effects, no msaa , no asitropic , no shadow etc... ( max perf ), PD to 1.0
- disable HotPlugIn
1) start ODT first and check setting
2) start occulus home
3) connect your quest 2 and check resolution settings and everything ok in the occulus world ( smooth )
4) Start DCS MT version
5) check in a free flight in caucasus with no weather effect : on my rig a get a smooth experience 72 fps , no stutter and no blurry
6) check on aerobatic server : a get smooth experience 72 fps, sometime some stutter when a new arcraft appears ( depend about the livery ! )
7) change settings one by one ( Occulus Resolution or DCS : AA settings , Shadow, and Textures Resolution need more resources than other ... )
In my experience, windows 10 or 11 tuning is the most important step,
I cannot get a good experience without freeing ressources at maximum and permanently ( CPU & RAM background reduced as much as possible )
( DCS would need a real-time OS or DOS ...: dedicated ressources )When checking performances while playing DCS MT in VR : CPU is about 80% and GPU about 90% and VRAM Full ...
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Hello,
i run DCS on a corei5 10600k ( 6 cores ) and a 1080ti and Quest2
i ´ll share to you in few hours my settings that i’m very happy with ( fps and quality balance ) and external tools ( ODT, NvCP, windows tunings )
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about resolution, many quest owner let PD at 1.0 in DCS, and use the définition multiplier in occulus home ( x1.2 x1.3 x1.5 … )
my advice is to start from low settings ( low textures..) in DCS and do test in freeflight after adding options one by one ( backup file named « options.lua » when it’s good)
dont forget to use mouse options to keep cursor confined to DCS
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Hello
1)just check total memory usage in windows task manager while playing
If it is upper than physical ram, so swapping on Drive occurs and performances decrease: add more physical RAM
32 GB is a good value for single and multiplayer session ( some time more because of memory leaks in some script )
2) the more vram you have, the best it is for DCS ( reduce vram swapping with ram )
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Sure, maybe it is occulus related
for people with occulus and low performance machine , here is the link that help my experience
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Hello
on my 1080ti , reducing mirror allow to get 72 fps in the Quest 2, without reducing mirror, i get 36 fps ( asw kick on )
this setting in OTT has been given in a old thread in the forum and still very useful on my experience
So my question about disabling mirror…
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Many thanks
Maybe mirror full control should to disable mirror completely ?
I don’t know if it is alowed with openxr api or a DCS implémentation design choice
Why ?
Because on my side i can get better performances when forcing mirror resolution in OTT to 800x600 ( oculus )
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Hello
on my side i removed every additionnals tools ( like openxr toolkit ..) and redo all settings from scratch : DCS 2.9 settings, nvidia setting reset … then it run better than previous version for my needs
it seemd ED has reworked the redering very well , we should hope the same job the vulkan version
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Hello Virgo47
Flickering and random stuff is because an old nvidia driver i used ( see me previous post )
So it is solved on my side
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Bingo !
I installed 457.30 ( already on my disk ) and no more Bug
Sorry for the time spent about such thing
Bye Bye Nvidia 3 series drivers,
Welcome 4 ou 5 series and new settings !
Some people tested different driver version to compare performances...3 series was good on my side until DCS 2.9
Thanks !
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The bug is not present on a fresh install on my older machine,
so not easy to reproduce as you say
The bug is present ( slow repair + newly "saved game" ) of my current game machine ( options.lua is stock )
Easy to reproduce on my side : just start from any airport ( see screenshots )
If a reduce the LOD Factor to 0.1 ,
the objects pop-up appears very far but are still present on horizon ( horizon is flickering with pop-up )
LOD setting and algorithm seem to be related as said in previous post
The bug is systematic , i could stream a video through discord if needed...
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From few tests i could have made
The visual bug is visible near every airport on the two map i have tested : i have been testing Caucasus and Persian map for now
The visual bug does not occurs when flying away from airport
I started to donwload DCS 2.9 from scratch on my previous machine in order to compare with my current game machine.
Patch notes discussion November 2024
in DCS 2.9
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True
Very good exprience, no more ghost in multi-player
Well Done
Please try to keep like that, as possible, along upcomming patch...