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Do let us know if it is a fullscreen thing. I always run my sims full screen so I honestly have not tried anything in a window.
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Personally I would rather have the Apache before the A-10, but either of these two would be nice as the 1st add-on modules.
We always have lockon if we want to fly fast.
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Chillspider, you are probably looking at the wrong executeable. The only thing that automatically uses both cores is the "launcher.exe" I believe. Look for the DCS.exe and check again. The DCS.exe is your Blackshark running executeable.
Also, if you run XP, setting the affinity to use both cores in XP results in no FPS benefits. But do the same thing in Vista and you will be pleasantly pleased with your fps increase.
Again, make sure it is the DCS.exe that you are setting. The launcher.exe is just to launch the Graphic User Interface. The DCS.exe will only "pop-up" after the game actually starts, so to see it you will need to "alt-tab" out of the game and check your processor affinity for it.
Also, I recommend doing the following in Vista,
-Set the affinity to auto start with Blackshark's DCS.exe (a few methods to do this on the links here)
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35091
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=33715
-right click the DCS.exe in your Eagle Dynamics/KA-50/bin/ folder, go to properties, click on the compatibility tab, check the box to run as administrator and also check the box to "disable desktop composition". This will automatically turn off all the eye-candy theme of Vista when you start the game, but it will come back on when you exit the game, automatically.
-before clicking on the blackshark icon to start the game, right click on the sidebar and turn it off. You can always turn it back on after your done flying in Blackshark.
These thing may help some of you that may have some resource issues and help your system run a bit quicker when gaming in Vista.
I personally do all of these, even with a very strong system, as well as turn off any background process's by optimizing Windows Vista ( Should be done for XP as well to get the maximum from your system). Many sites on the net, Some googled here
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For those of you missing the "point" of using Vista with Blackshark, read the entire forum thread here
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=35091
and here:
http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=33715
In short: Using Blackshark with Vista (32 or 64 bit) yields approx 10 to 20 fps more consistantly over the same system on XP. But to see the results you must do the affinity trick and do it correctly ( ie. not on the launcher.exe and activate each time or use the affinity tweaks mentioned here and in other threads so that the multi-core affinity tweak auto starts for you.)
Up to you if you want to use XP or Vista, but just know that you will get more FPS on Vista with a multicore system, over XP.
I am currently running Blackshark on a dual boot system, running XP Pro and Vista x64, and I am consistantly getting approx 18-20 fps more in my Vista boot-up than I do when I boot into XP and run Blackshark.
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No issues here with Vista and this campaign.
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Works great on Vista and you can get more FPS on Vista than you can on XP, using the affinity tweak (do a search for it here). I have had no problems and/or issues with the Georgia campaign either. Mine is installed normally in the Program Folder and runs without issues.
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Dachs, please post up that part of your cougar code to see how you did it.
Thanks in advance.
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Very cool!
I just went over to our electrical dept. and they are wiring me up a very lite duty and very small 4.5 mm x 4.5 mm thin membrane switch for me to use on mine, I'll be using a very tiny micro battery holder as well.
All credit and thanks goes to Jonk who came up with this!
Thx.
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Very Cool!
Hm... To finalize your design, you could go to radio shack and get one of these, sewing it to the backside of the glove to hold the AA battery
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062247
Or better yet, use a smaller watch battery and holder ( ultra small ) and if need be drop the voltage to whatever you need with an inline diode, placing this on the backside of the glove for easy battery replacement.
http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3060977
I think I now have a reason to buy a Wii !
Great idea and initiative getting this to work! Good Job and thanks for sharing it with us.
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No difference noted in XP x64 either. It must be Vista and have a multi-core cpu to see the effect.
Funny thing is that whatever FPS numbers you get with XP(32 or 64 bit), you are sure to get more (at least 10-15 fps more) with this affinity tweak in Vista (32 or 64 bit).
Works like a charm.
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Well Yes, only with Vista do you get an improvement in your fps with this above what you would normally get if you ran XP on the same exact system and tried the tweak.
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Any version of Vista I believe will do the trick. The affinity tweak works to enhance the FPS in Blackshark under the VISTA operating system due to how this Microsoft operating system handles multi-core cpu instructions.
Even though you can set the affinity for multi-core cpus under XP, based upon tests from many users (including myself) there is no fps difference under the XP operating system. The additional fps gained by setting the affinity for the DCS.exe (note: not the launcher.exe) seems to work only under the Vista OS.
I hope this helps to clarify what has been said.
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Agreed, it is a fantastic sim. Nice headphones you have there.
Thanks again ED/DCS creators, I can see flying Blackshark for a long time, especially due to all the learning that has to go on to master this sim.
regards.
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Fine if you disagree, but currently for the many who have tried Blackshark in Vista (both x86 or x64 versions) and compared it to their XP fps numbers, the winner here so far has been Vista. You don't have to agree for this to be a fact, It is what it is. And even though Blackshark runs quite well on XP, it does in fact run better on Vista for me as well as many others who have tried both and reported back on the Vista results.
Maybe Vista is just not for you; but it makes no sense in "trying" to hold others back from experiencing great results with Blackshark in Vista with a multi-core cpu when you personally have been unable to get it to work well enough for you. Stay with XP and be happy then, nobody really cares if you change to Vista or not. :) These are choices that we all have, isn't it great!
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Same here Mxyzpylk, I tried Blackshark on this dual boot system in both XP and Vista, and Vista x64 won hands down. Much smoother with the affinity trick, resulting in around 20 fps more over XP. In XP the affinity trick resulted in no gain in fps at all.
I still can't believe I am saying it being a long time opponent of Vista for gaming titles, but if you have a strong system, with a multicore processor, you'll find that Vista is better with Blackshark than XP is.
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Just an FYI:
I have tried it on XP 32 (no problems) and Vista x64 (no problems) but with an Intel Core2 Duo or Quad Core processor, you will want to gain all the Frames per Second that you can get by using Vista. The way the Vista optimizes for multi-core processors has anywhere from a 10 to 20 fps more effect over XP using dual core processors.
For those that hate Vista, remember thats what everyone said about XP when everyone was using Win98 SE for gaming, and here we are today running XP mostly. Vista x32 and x64 are fantastic operating systems, that just take time in getting to know how to tweak them to run the applications you have the best.
Vista for lockon is definitely not as good as with XP... But Vista for Blackshark is quite a bit better than XP with Blackshark. So far my Blackshark on Vista x64 runs like a dream.
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I tested this on a dual boot system testing both XP and Vista with an Intel Core2 Duo cpu, and I got roughly 15 to 20 fps more in Vista using the affinity to enable the two cores to run the DCS.exe versus the same exact system and enabling affinity in XP.
In XP if I had 40 fps with 1 core, I had 40 fps with 2 cores. In Vista if I had 40 fps with 1 core, I had around 55-60 fps in Vista with dual cores actvated.
Hope this helps.
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I am also flying Blackshark on a 37" 1080P LCD at 1920x1080 (Westinghouse LVM-37x3),
Its fantastic!
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I use a Westinghouse LVM-37w3 37" widescreeen lcd (1080P HD) 1920x1080 res.
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I'm using an FSSB-R2 modded Cougar with CH Pro Pedals and TrackIR3 w/ Vector Expansion currently.
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Glad to hear you got it worked out Mxyzpylk. I haven't tried the Prifinity product yet, but I might as well. Thanks.
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As was mentioned before here, you need to get the latest drivers from naturalpoint and then also download the latest game updates from within the TrackIR software interface (gui). Then it should work when you see "Blackshark" in the list of supported games.
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Thanks.:thumbup:
xp32 vs vista64 - black shark
in DCS: Ka-50 Black Shark
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Excellent, glad to see you are noticing improvement.
You may also want to try some of the optimizing tips/tricks I suggested in a previous post here as well as check those links I posted for a few automatic methods of activating the multi-core affinity for BlackShark.