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I guess this is to apply some mods that conflicts/overlaps with each other... right ?

You are missing nothing, yes, they are "slaved alphabetically": In the order where they are in the list, to be algorithmically correct, and the list is built in alphabetical order. What is the problem with that for you ?

Comparable to, or compared to ?

Yet another purely aproximative video with no data: Here it performs a low pass slow speed, it seem not have so much trouble to pull up and gain energy at the end... anyway, not much more than any other comparable non-delta aircraft.

Nothing, i just answer the question... What is "lot of thrust" ? 100% ? Full AB ? 80% ? Unfortunately, we are not in the cockpit to check the engine RPM...

Lets assume it is only some non-scientifical aproximation: The propeller aircraft appear to be a Socata TB9 or something like this... Cruise speed : ~140 kts. The mirage 2000 have central fuel tank + 2 MAGIC, he did not traveled through the entire France to encounter the lost aircraft, so we can assume it is almost full of fuel. The altitude is almost constant, so the mirage 2000 is at an AOA arround 18°: The Mirage 2000 is perfectly manoeuvrable and stable, swinging its wings for visual contact.

And then, what about who did'nt remember ?... You perfectly know what i mean... everybody perfectly know what i mean.

One question, and some will perfectly guess the answer: What would have happened in this topic if CptSimely did not have come back admitting there is a bug ? I have nothing else to say.

Here some "clear data" here: This is a Mirage 2000... All Mirage 2000 (except if we go back to early 80's) have the same delta wing with M53-P2 engine. This may be the training biplace (B) variant, which would not make so much difference.

I never said the delta wings are same as a swept wings... I only said: i think there is a hard bias about how the M2k's delta configuration should be dragy/unperformant:

Yes, but this is less spectacular.

As far as i know, yes.

The latest version is here (the post was moved) : https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=182752 This work with the current version as far as i know.

Wing aspect ratio does not made all... it seems there is a very hard bias about this "delta wing high drag"... Compare with a Su-27 for example, do you really beleive the agile M2k's small delta wing should cause this huge drag comparing to the Su-27's large and flat general shape ? Technically - and you don't need to make complex computing - it is obvious that the mass of air displaced by a Su-27 is at minimum the double than what a M2k displace, then keep in mind that the air density/viscosity is the same for both aircraft, you can easily understands that Su-27 generates in fact much more drag (compensated by two huge Saturn AL-31 engines) than the M2k despite its delta wing configuration... so there is no reason the M2k have this so high drag and bad performance compared to the Su-27, and clearly, just compare M2k and Su-27 in air show, the M2k is more agile, and fortunately.

And i think this is also related to the current FM wrong behavior. As you have to deal with an incoherent FM, you need to adopt some "incoherent" adaptive tactics. The fact is that currently, below 300kts, the aircraft begins to transforming itself in a flying brick with a very high risk to lose all your energy simply by pulling a 5Gs turn. Consequently, you have to keep the mirage at a very high speed constantly, which leads you in a flight domain where the Mirage have a low turn rate, low AOA, but with high Gs, which mecanically expose you to the G lock problem.

I just tested (not very rigorously), and i see the same problem in 2.1:, with 100% fuel + 2*Magic, bellow ~150kt with 10° AOA, it is barely possible to keep altitude with full AB. If you go under ~110 kts, the aircraft just fall like a leaf, and even with full afterburner this is unrecoverable, the aircraft don't accelerate anymore, you have, as Slims said, to seriously pull down and pray to have enough altitude... All this, only after some 4-6 Gs turns...

I tryed the dogfight in 1.5... i just tested some flight in 2.1, but as i seen in 2.1 how the Mirage have hard time to lift while taking off with the standard 2*530 & 2*Magic payload, i guess the problem is the same in both version.

Edited after Moderation intervention

Ok sorry... the fact is that here, this is sometime hard to distinguish humor from serious sentences...

First, i want to point out that I am not alone to have this perception, and there are some clear argument here, as "Fox One" noticed: We fly the same module... why you don't have the same perception ? There can be many good answere to this question. here is some of them: - You fly with it regularly, so you even did not noticied the difference between when the FM was okay and now. Me, I just return to play after 4-6 months away, so i clearly seen something changed. - You are so deepely accustomed to have hard time to dogfight, that you did not even noticed something is clearly wrong, even by "managing energy". - I flyed other modules, like Su-27 (Avanced FM) and F-15... and you can't tell me that the Mirage 2000 can't compets the Su-27 in dogfight, however, currently this is the case ! - Maybe you underestimate the Mirage 2000... so i just have to rembeber you the Mirage 2000 is far closer to the F-16 than the Mig-21 in term of performances, since the Mirage 2000 is a direct competitor to the F-16. - Etc.

I confirm the Mirage 2000 take off... like a Su-25... but sure, it take off...

Hm, no, sorry, I think of it as a major issue, since the aircraft is clarly underpowered and unable to dogfight (and even barely able to take off) ... in contrary than the small innaccuracies with data charts regularly pointed out by some people while crying "Ho My God, The Mirage Is Over Powered by 0.1 % in sustained turn rate at 15.000 ft, This is A Scandal !"

Yes, except if you are accustomed to dogfight aboard the A-10 or Su-25...

Unfortunately, it seem a large part of the community did'nt even noticed something was wrong with the FM, while the other part was afraid to complaint because they are tired to ear always the same arguments "What are your data ?/This is because delta wing/This is realistic you are just dumb/bad pilot/need practice" from the first part... I have to admit i am more angry against some part of the community than against Razbam.

I took the screenshots in some specifics angles to show the specular behavior (especially on wings, at very specifics angles), in globality, the shininess is not as much predominant. Anyway, if you compare with actual M2k photos, you should find this is almost correct.