Heatloss
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This really is the best timeline.
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Great to see you in this thread! Very happy to see you guys doing the work on this module (The day F-4S or F-4J with AWG-10B and VTAS II is announced is the day I die of happiness). Is the 4E drawing on any of the work completed by belsimtek, or is that too old/not up to standard in some way?
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It's made my month!
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Man, all the doubting in this thread...
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If you mean that it could serve as a stand-in for a 4B or 4C, no. 4D maybe, if you ignored the different heatseekers, lack of AIM-4, and lack of ordnance. 4E definitely not. You'd also be missing some radar modes for the 4D and have a few too many modes in the 4J. So no, I'd say it's a poor placeholder, for many reasons including the radar.
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It was external on F-101, 102, 106 and a variety of other aircraft designed for it. The F-4D received an update to the pylons that allowed for, I believe, 20 minutes of cooling.- 20 replies
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I'm not sure where you're getting this from. 85% cumulative probability of detection against a 5m^2 target was 37 nautical miles in wide search, for look up, down, and co-altitude target detection, and in head-on in narrow search (guided intercept with datalink), 60 nmi for look up/down/co-alt. This is on the original AWG-10, not even the slightly digitized 10A and fully digitized 10B. This puts detection ranges significantly above N008, and just below Zhuk. I'd say that's pretty solid, wouldn't you?
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F-4E,J,S,N,M,K. I am unsure if F-4D ever received a vertical scan mode, but it is possible.
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Ah, yes. That's right, and it was retrofitted to Bs with the N standard. 9G/H and L/M/X have SEAM. I don't think the USAF 'winders had it until maybe 9P-3 at the earliest. I can't find any mention of it in USAF manuals regarding the F-4D/E anywhere.
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Introduced on the G in the late 60s. I didn't realize that the J introduced it on USAF missiles, I thought it took until later with 9Ps.
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the 9H was the navy missile, for the F-4Js after 1972. Time equivalent of 9J/N, so before the L.
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F-4Js with mildly scuffed engines and incredibly scuffed aerodynamics. Nothing against the brits, I know why they did it, but man, that drag was worse than the high camber slats on the F-4S.
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That's my bad. I kinda forgot the F-4F exists...
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Here's something unexpected to most people in this thread. That gunsight can mean any of four variants, not including the British Phantoms. F-4D, F-4E, and as far as I can tell, AWG-10A equipped F-4J, or F-4S.
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Aside from the practical issues of the RIO not being able to see past the giant panel in front of him, there was no VTAS helmet plug-in in the backseat, and I can reasonably assume that means no IR receivers as well. It was normally the job of the RIO to keep eyes on the target at all times during a dogfight, and tell the pilot where the target was. The pilot would split his focus between energy management and getting into a firing envelope. At least, that's my understanding.
