AeriaGloria
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It is unknown if ED will give it S-5, but it won’t have S-13 or S-25. It will have all S-8 variants and S-24B for sure.
Bombs and KMGU also.
The CCIP/CCRP doesn’t correct for wind unless you pre designate the target and wait 2-8 seconds before firing, but you can also correct for target movement using this method.
Unlike FC3, its AG mode will likely be limited to 5 km but it depends how ED models it.
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1 hour ago, pepin1234 said:
Can you please add in the FAQ what is the new implementation of CEC or ECM countermeasures? The current ECM Jamming in your video, blinded the MiG-29A radar.
That is not only new for MiG-29A but for the whole DCS core. Or do you want to keep only the whole Russian side blinded by ECM?
if you want to simulate the superiority of USAF ECM versus old Soviet fighters then at least make some changes in the DCS core for the rest of airborne radars modules because is impossible Su-34, Su-30 ECM's stay the same for USAF radars after you want to introduce this abusing implementation for jamming MiG-29A only?
Just so you know this is image of IRST interference. Not radar.
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4 hours ago, CrazyGman said:
Just to confirm, your still able to see target aspect with radar lock without GCI datalink? Just you won't see it if it's locked only with IRST?
Exactly. Target aspect with radar, not with IRST even after ranging.
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3 hours ago, kotor633 said:
I hope for two things: Firstly, that we at least get an Early Access Guide that is continually updated like the manuals for the AH-64, F16 and FA.18. And that we don't have to wait years again and still wait, keyword: Mi-24P. Secondly, that GCI is made available for the Mi-24P too. Or would it even make sense to make GCI generally available for the Mig-21, Mi-8 and M2k? I would like to see these two things. Apart from that, I'm completely focused on the Mig-29. I've watched the trailer many times. And apart from that, I'm currently only flying the FC3 Mig-29 in DCS. And I'm trying to get as much information on the web as possible.
You can’t make the GCI datalink work for any other full fidelity module, it requires a specific cockpit panel to set the codes. Once you turn it on and have a connection you have a circle that guides you to intercept trajectory with the enemy and gives you their speed, alt, and hemisphere on the HUD.
Su-27 has the same system and 2-3 other datalinks it can use. It would be possible to make a MiG-21 that used the system, but our module in DCS has the autopilot replacing the Lazur GCI datalink.
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On 11/29/2024 at 12:37 AM, GrEaSeLiTeNiN said:
In the real jet, does the pilot steer the CM8 via the
a) traction method (steers missile in real time), or
b) designated method ('steering' moves missile cam only, designate (does not lock target) then makes missile go where crosshairs are pointing)?
I'm thinking it's (a) as it's more realistic and that (b) was added to make it easier in the sim.B/designate is realistic to the real jet
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Well, Chinese other then the German radio, British ejection seat, French oxygen bottles, and Spanish RWR
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14 minutes ago, CrazyGman said:
Ahh... now that makes more sense from what west Germany pilot commentary was referring to on the radar to pilot interface. I never understood it quite from the the FC3 version because I feel it gave you as the pilot still a large degree of autonomy, but definitely now with how it is laid out the pilot does seem to be quite held to following the hud cues to get into position for firing the radar guided misslies rather then be able to have the target be highlighted on the hud, and somewhat organically do the interception based on feel. Which is fine if you sending up lots of jets for a intercept against waves of targets that are flying in a predictable manner and are trying to win an attrition fight, but limits the ability for you to quickly "feel" the target and adapt to it's rapid changes without a bunch of work arounds
Not to mention you can’t even see target speed and altitude without datalink!
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10 hours ago, CrazyGman said:
So just to confirm. when you have locked a target, and you don't have GCI datalink, the black diamond, which is labeled "radar antenna position mark" in the picture I attached is where your locked target is on the hud correct?
I was looking for something like this on the pre-order video, but didn't see anything like it from the hud shots.
I think HUD is unfinished in less order video, doesn’t show PP when IRST gain is messed with and Tate circle, diamond, and waypoint distance are missing
Yes, the diamond does not show target position, as in it fires not cover the target like in FC3. “It points to the target” only as in it’s a gimbal limit indicator, so if target is 20 degrees up and 30 degrees left, the forming is halfway up/left on the HUD. So that if you pull towards the symbol, you will eventually be pointed right at the target when the Diamond is in the center of the HUD.
No symbol covers the target IRL. All up to pilot to get visual based on the gimbal indicator and the missile launch zone once they have radar lock, and gimbal indicator only with IRST lock.
Gimbal limit indicator also only properly works when upright and level. For example let’s say I lock someone in front and turn right. You won’t see gimbal limit indicator drift down the HUD pointing towards the target, it will drift left. So you will need to be level for the gimbal limit indicator to properly point towards the target
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14 hours ago, Hobel said:
Gimbal Limit also?
That’s basically what I mean. IRST can do 60 degrees azimuth/elevation in FC3. IRL, it is limited to 30 degrees and only flanker gets full 60 degrees IRST
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20 hours ago, draconus said:
Yep, ex. S with its R-77s.
Or being able to see target speed and altitude
Or having the locked target have a symbol on them so you can see where they are
Or being able to change radar scale as you wish
Or having the whole right side of the HUD, which is only on the HDD in the real one and FF
It may be difficult to switch sensors as easily, and you only have one sensor pick up the lost lock of another if radar is locked to MPRF
Not to mention the IRST has 2x the FOV it will have in the FF
Ir the fact that we will need to wait 4 seconds to fire radar missiles if we lock inside missile range
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In case you wanted to know everything and all the stats about the Soviet rockets we have and which ones are best for what
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FC3 does this wrong. IRL and likely in FF your radar gimbal will be represented by the diamond, left side of HUD 70 degrees left and right side is 70 degrees right.
so when it reaches the side then you know you’re at cranking limit, only problem is that unlike FC3 there won’t be a right border to the HUD only on HDD. So you can either look at HDD for left crank or estimate the right HUD border by when the diamond is at the numbers of the artificial horizon
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1 hour ago, Dudikoff said:
I feel it could have been cheaper given how a bunch of stuff was already developed/researched with the FC3 and how relatively simple the plane is avionics wise.
I'm planning to buy it, but I do hope the radar and IRST systems are not just copy/pasted from the FC3 with some HUD updates.
Lastly, it would be great if the avionics developed for it would pave way towards some other FF FC3 modules in the future(like e.g. Su-25A and Su-27S, eventually).
You might be surprised how the avionics and HUD for the FC3 model are completely wrong.
But yes I agree, with this RSBN correction nav system modeled, you could basically copy and paste the basic functionality to Su-25, Su-27, etc
24 minutes ago, pepin1234 said:Can you please tell if R-27P and R-27ER gonna be in this module? At least R-27P has an Ukranian made production....
ER is in the trailer and many pre release photos
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Oh no please buy it! We need to tell them that there is demand for red modules!
MiG-29 “A” should still be a worthy fast attack jet especially if there is access to RSBN correction on many maps. Set you waypoints to IP and target, we can carry S-8 or S-24 with it which is very powerful or bombs. And you can do wind/moving target correction by designating the target first then aiming after 2 seconds!!! That should give us some versatility we don’t have in FC3 to make those rocket and cannon runs extra accurate!!!!
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I would be very interested if there are any sources you have access too that give gun accuracy. The aircraft weapon manual described here gives much smaller values then the DCS MiG-15 of 12 mil dispersion for 1 km for 23mm and and 8.3/6.7 mil for 1 km for the HE/AP 37mm rounds, both for 100% circle or MOA. Along with different tracer burn times and ammo mixes. If the link for it does not work I can help.
I look forward to a 37mm that is properly accurate and a 23mm that is properly spray and pray, though I do understand if the slightly longer barrel of the MiG-17 NR-23 makes a small improvement in its accuracy.
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On 5/8/2025 at 11:39 PM, kolpakov_79 said:
Извините, но это полная неправда.
Which part? The S-21, S-24, or both?
Какая часть? S-21, S-24 или обе?
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On 4/21/2025 at 3:45 AM, pjbunnyru said:
fm model will besame. thats great.
when radar, kols "are adjusted according to all data", we will probably be "very happy"
Radar and KOLS range is very close right now. The biggest issue is their interaction and the way the systems operate.
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14 hours ago, Raffi75 said:
I don't use the collective brake at all. I don't have it assigned to HOTAS anywhere either. It would be strange if it started by itself in multiplayer. I'll check it today.
Yes I never use it either, but sometimes it seems there is some ghost input putting it on!
On 5/8/2025 at 2:48 PM, Copperfield86 said:Same problem but with ROUTE channel.
It seems OP’s problem was solved. Are you turning on your route channel within the Doppler limits of +/-7 degrees pitch or 30 degrees roll? 50-300 kmh? Usually you can’t use it above 260-289 kmh becuase you need such a negative pitch angle it disables the Doppler
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7 hours ago, Raffi75 said:
Can you expand on your thought?
The “F” key toggles the Collective brake. The collective brake will disable the altitude hold. It has been a bug occasionally that the collective brake seems to accidentally be on sometimes and prevent use of the altitude hold.
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Hello, I have encountered two things I see repeated in a few places that would be very fun for the module!
Most common, I see late MiG-17F fighter bomber squadrons being modified to fire S-24 and needing to stiffen the rear shock absorbers to increase ground clearance. This would be a very fun weapon for such a small and spunky aircraft!
Two, I found a mention that S-21 was designed with MiG-17F in mind, and that the sight would program the fuse to detonate at the range the sight was at to, making it an extremely potent anti bomber/large aircraft weapon. Saying the weapon could explode 15m from a bomber and still be expected to mission kill it.
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Have you pressed “F”?
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12 hours ago, LuseKofte said:
Thanks @AeriaGloria for your continuous seemingly endless knowledge you share with us.
I flown this module pretty much every time I start DCS since it came out.
I never knew it even had a hoover button. I messed a lot with the autopilot at first, but soon I just trimmed it. I am not with my computer right now. But I just trim it for what ever speed I want.
But I will look into thisAlways something new to learn.
The hover button is very finicky!
1. It will try to stabilize you over a particular spot, so you need to only turn it on once you are already in a hover!
2. Just like route mode, since it uses Doppler, it is turned off as soon as you exceed Doppler limits (7 degrees pitch or 30 degrees roll). Now, normally you hover at 3.5 degrees nose up. So what happens if you have any forward speed and press hover button? The hover mode commands nose up to get you to go back to the spot you turned it on over, you exceed the 7 degrees pitch Doppler limit, and it turns off. Add things like tail winds, needing to back up, and it might turn off a lot, so you might need to keep turning it back on!
And just like route mode, if it turns off on its own, its last command is “saved” in the autopilot and will interfere with you. So when you are actually done with it you NEED to press the “OFF” button or it will keep messing you up for the rest of your flight.
Sometimes it can be a nice crutch to turn on the hover mode before takeoff and have it help you takeoff straight, then turn it off as you start building speed!
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On 4/22/2025 at 9:41 AM, Chops said:
I am re-learning the Mi-24P and having a lot of difficulty. I have read through this thread a few times, but am still having trouble with the special settings and understanding what is going on with the helicopter. Some of the settings seem redundant and contradictory.
Why hasn't a manual been released that describes all of the special settings in detail? This module has been out for over 4 years and no manual has been released! This should be considered totally unacceptable by Eagle Dynamics.
It would be very helpful if there was an option to return all of the settings to default. I uninstalled and then re-installed the module but it kept my special settings.
I want to have the heading hold enabled for cruise flight between waypoints, but also want to have full control of the pedals when maneuvering.
Attached is a screenshot of my settings; are these correct for what I want?
Hello Chops, I made a guide for the autopilot, in there there is a chapter where I go through every single special options settings, it might be able to help, if not I can answer any questions https://drive.google.com/file/d/157HdRauUQO8rUJypKMnWrOktTjWqyMBE/view?usp=drivesdk
Here is what I would recommend based off your screenshot
1. Turn “Pedal auto move” off, this gives heading hold more authority by trimming your pedals, but often causes control issues especially when heading hold is accidentally activated and you lose overall authority from pedals being trimmed. The normal 18% authority is usually plenty for heading hold to get you from point A to point B
2. Turn “Microswitch logic” either to “disable by return pedals to center” or “automatic off.” But really, what I honestly recommend after all my years is to go “automatic off” and bind “microswitch toggle,” and use this as your “heading hold” button. Just when you start up, turn on your auto pilot, also press your “microswitch toggle,” this will put the put the yaw autopilot into a mode that is helping you fly smooth but not holding heading. Then when you want to activate heading hold just press microswitch toggle and once again to turn it off. Know how each autopilot channel has a dial? If you are having trouble conforming if your heading hold is active or not, move the dial and if it moves the needle in the window above it then heading hold is active!
Or if you have R control + enter window open, and if the left most AP window is fighting your turn, then you know heading hold is on. You can do the same thing without R control + enter display by looking at the same AP windows by your left knee.
To be honest though, I almost always fly heading hold with microswitch pressed (heading hold off), becuase if you want to fly from point A to B hands off you know what’s even better? Route mode! On top of autopilot panel you have buttons route mode, hover button, etc. Route mode will only work when Doppler is active (it has pitch limits of +/-7 degrees and roll limits of +/-30 degrees), but becuase it uses Doppler that means it corrects for wind!
It’s a little more work then heading hold, you have to set your heading with a dial to the left of the autopilot panel. But it will compensate for wind PERFECTLY! Just make sure when you’re done using it to press the “OFF” button next to it, becuase even if it turns off automatically from exceeding Doppler limits it’s last inputs will be “saved” in the autopilot and mess you up.
If you instead choose the “disable microswitch by moving pedals to center,” I would recommend to only turn on Yaw AP when you want heading hold and turn it off when you’re done! Becuase if you leave it on in this mode it can accidentally turn on or off at the wrong time and interfere.
Let me know if there’s anything else you want to know!
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On 4/23/2025 at 2:58 PM, zerO_crash said:
Re-read what I wrote:
I state that microswitches put the "heading hold AP" in standby. I make, however, no mention of the dampening in that statement, and for good reason - in the Mi-24, the heading hold AP is entirely disconnected from the dampening fucntion (there is no stabilization, this is not Ka-50).I won't link Russian manuals, as you'd likely not understand them anyways, but here is a picture showing which switch in the cockpit operates the yaw damper (image is from Chuck's manual for simplicity):
When talking about the Mi-8/Mi-24/Ka-50/+++, you have to be very careful not to mix the systems up. They have their differences and nuances, with Ka-50 being entirely different than Mi-8/-24, which have some overlap.
EDIT: To correct you and make it clear - Mi-24P has yaw dampener actuated regardless of the operation of the heading hold AP. Provided that the damper is engaged (default position), it operates all the time, whether the heading hold AP is on/standby/off.
On 4/24/2025 at 5:52 AM, jojojung said:Thanks for clarafication. That was not known to me. You say the stabilization mode is on even when the yaw AP is completly off, right? Before my stand of information from @AeriaGloria Autopilot Guide sounds a bit different. There it sounds more then the stabilization mode is only active, when the yaw AP is on. But its not 100% clear in this guide. It left space for your explaintation, that stabilization is on all the time no matter of the yaw AP engaged or disengaged.
In your logic the microswitches are only there to turn the yaw AP with its only heading hold function on and off because stabilization mode is on all the time, right?
"Section B: Section B, Part I: The system in reality and Operation.A. When feet are on pedals in Mi-8 (micro switches pressed) the
heading hold does nothing. In Mi-24P, the Yaw channel enters
Stabilization mode.B. when feet are off pedals in Mi-8 (micro switches released), the
yaw AP goes into heading hold mode and maintains heading usingits 20% authority (18% in Mi-24P), and when it reaches this limit it
will use the hydraulic damper in the pedals SDV-5000-OA (which
usually just slows down pedal movement) to trim the pedals for you
to maintain heading.
The only difference between Mi-8 Yaw channel with Mi-24P in
reality is that, when the yaw AP is not in heading hold and feet are
on pedals (micro switches pressed), Yaw AP goes into a
Stabilization Mode."
Jojojung is correct, I believe you are mixing up two different types of “dampeners” Zero_Crash
Yes. There is the “SDV-500-OA” which is a literal hydraulic dampener, it is not advanced or smart in any way but only slowing down any movement of the pedals from center to full to 3 seconds and being able to be filled by the autopilot to move the pedals on their own if your settings are set that way. And yes it’s turned off with the red guard.
But if you turn Yaw AP on and press microswitch there is still a dampening/stabilization function in the autopilot that is completely separate. This function works off not fighting yaw rate, but changes in yaw rate. So if I turn left, it will “dampen/fight/stabilize” the initial turn to the left, but as the turn to the left stabilizes it will go back to neutral.
You can see this work in the simulator by using R control + enter and looking at the yaw window with yaw autopilot on and microswitch pressed. It will move the channel 20% for every deg/s/s of acceleration, just like how the channel moves 20% for every deg/s of acceleration in normal heading hold.
Becuase of confusion of these two “dampeners,” I have tried to shy away from calling it such and say “stabilization” mode, which some real life sources say as well.
This “stabilization” law that is active with Yaw AP while microswitch is pressed was added after Dutch roll issues reared their ugly head, , so it was meant to make that and all high speed flight much smoother
In addition, the Trim hat is connected to the Mi-24 AP! When you press and release trim 2 things happen, it not only resets the deflection of the attitude holds, but there is a second autopilot law that it inherits from Mi-8: the autopilot will deflect the attitude holds in the same direction the stick moves to not fight the pilot and reduce the need for re trimming!
You can see this on the ground, move the cyclic with R control + enter and you will see the autopilot channels follow your cyclic! This is why having autopilot on can actually INCREASE your control authority to an extent!
However, to do this, it needs to know where “center” is. Oh Mi-8, it just took wherever your stick was when you turned it on, same as for attitude holds. So for Mi-24, your trim is resetting the attitude hold and where “center” is, so if you’re cyclic was previously commanding any autopilot deflection it goes away after pressing trim.
When you press hat trim, it is also telling the autopilot to move this “center” but NOT moving the attitude holds. So it’s a sort of half measure and why of course in the end nothing can replace re trimming. You can see all this work on the ground. Move your cyclic right, you will see roll autopilot deflect right. Hold it there. Hold right hat trim, you will see the roll autopilot steadily go back to center as your “center” is moving right.
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Our Incoming MiG-29A vs Non Warsaw Pact Variant
in DCS: MiG-29A Fulcrum
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If downgraded, it is downgraded in some way that has 0 effect on performance, as their manuals and even for “9.12B” version give identical ranges, lock times, etc.