jocko417

Five new bare metal skins for the F-104C uploaded to ED User Files. See first post of this thread for DL link.

Looks great!

Snoopy Sniper also updated. I think that's all.

*SIGH* Have updated three skins above, Smoke II, Sex Machine, and Hellooo Dolly to correct the camo pattern on the nose. You can re-download them using the same links. When I first did the camo pattern I followed the official USAF drawing. In looking at period photos it appears the lighter of the two greens wrapped up and over the radome from the right side on certain aircraft.

Thanks Carlo All new F-104C camo skins now available, see end of first post of this thread for DL links.

New/updated F-104C camo skins uploaded to ED User Files DL site, awaiting approval.

Couple more

Smoke II and Hellooo Dolly have been updated to match newest version of my 104C templates. Weathering and camo colours tweaked and some other details added. All skins should be available for download soon.

*NEW* F-104C Vietnam camo skins updated and expanded. "Shared" folder will be updated to include new textures and individual skin files to follow. New skins/nose art for F-104C aircraft based at Udorn RTAFB 1966-67:

Thank you Caldero, new Vietnam camo F-104C skins are about to be dropped for the VSN mod. Watch this thread for an update later today. BTW, you can download my F-104G template from the first post and add the ADC paint layers yourself if you like. RGB # 174 187 193 should work.

Looks great!

Oh, and the U-2C used the same grip... only GREEN!

The buttons themselves are recessed. The buttons are 9mm in diameter, and from the center of the button to the edge of the recess it sits in is about 9mm, with another 3.5mm or so to the outside edge of the grip. Another important thing about these throttle grips, note the angle between the speed brakes switch axis of movement compared to the axis of movement of the throttle lever itself: it is the outboard flat edge of the throttle that is pretty close to parallel to the movement of the throttle, NOT the speed brakes switch. A couple of pics to illustrate: F-100 on top, late model Canadair F-86 on bottom (essentially same grip used for both). Again, note the axis of the speed brake switch vs the mic pushbutton vs the fore and aft throttle movement...

I took the above pic of another throttle grip in my collection - from an early Canadair Sabre... Early F-86s had black cockpits and hardware. Sometime around 1953 they switched to grey cockpits and the throttle grip changed too (stick grip stayed black). I chose this pic because the light picks up the facets on the top surface of the black throttle easier than on the matte grey ones. Measurements are in degrees. The portion of the throttle top with the speed brakes switch housing is "flat", or 90 degrees to the grip itself. The push button housings are angled away 30 degrees from the flat portion, and the angle between the two housings is 20 degrees. The push button housings "blend together" near the front of the grip. Kind of hard to picture but here goes: As you can see the bottom of the microphone push button housing hits the grip at not quite 90 degrees. You can also see how it starts to blend forward of the button.

Nice!

Yes, diameter. No idea why I wrote circumference…..

Found a protractor, didn’t have to… your guesses were bang on, 60 deg throttle throw (idle stop at 18 deg but this was adjustable) overall and throttle grip angle 150 deg.

Oops, forgot H - 198 mm. Circumference - 41.45 mm

Hi Madpie, here’s most of the dimensions, the angles will have to wait for me to find a protractor Measurements are to nearest mm. A - TBD B - TBD C - 33 D - 109 E - 36 F - 42 G - 60 Also, here are some measurements for the speed brake switch assembly: Switch housing overall length - 31.42 mm Switch housing overall width - 17.63 mm Switch housing edges width - 3.8 mm each Switch head length - 19.72 mm Switch head width - 9.6 mm Once I find the protractor I’ll include some angle measurements for the top of the throttle grip, it has some sloped surfaces. To answer questions from previous posts, the speed brake switch is just a typical three position toggle switch with a cap on the switch bat. It is latched in all three positions, ON-OFF-ON (no momentary). It’s your typical toggle switch (bat shaped). The switch head attaches to the top of the bat with set screws on the forward and back of the switch head. The throttle grip does rotate for manual gunsight ranging, like the F-86 throttle. You twist it clockwise as seen from above, about 45 degrees in total. It’s sprung to return to normal position. Twisting it clockwise first moves a tab from holding a micro switch down which switches it from auto to manual mode. Returning it to normal position allows the tab to hit the micro switch again, returning it to auto ranging. It would be great if somebody was able to 3D print this type of throttle grip, as it was used in many single engine Cold War aircraft (F-86, F-100, F-104/105, T-28).

Yeah, I can help you with this.

Inspired by the Kola map release... CF-104 #4801 of No. 334 Squadron, Royal Norwegian Air Force, circa 1982. Available for download here: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3337479/

(W.I.P.) F-104A serial 56-0824, "Road Runner", 83rd FIS, Hamilton AFB, California

Thanks mate! Should all be available in the next few weeks. There are a few minor changes that should be made to the 3D model for these to truly look like F-104A/C aircraft and I’d prefer to release the skins after the model is taken care of. ldeally we could have: F-104A (early) F-104A (late) F-104C (with/without RHAW gear, ie: Stateside vs Vietnam)