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I'm afraid I can't see any choice but to cease being a customer. Take this as notice my Supercarrier order is cancelled, please close my account.

Eagle Dynamics do know the deliberate misselling of goods or fraudulent misrepresentation is illegal right? If they knew SC didn't work before putting it up for purchase in Early Access, as it still is now, even in software development terms, that is really dodgy! The promotional material, the pics and video clearly show a fully working Carrier. How many of us would still have bought SC when we did knowing it was actually bugged in alpha and required months of work just to get into beta? There's only 5 weeks to ED's own May deadline, if they go back on their word to offer refunds. :(

Train Sim World, the follow up to Train Simulator, released in 2018 with HUGE potential and fanfare by Dovetail Games. It was Train Simulator but ported into the Unreal 4 Engine and man it was stunning! September 2018 in a studio update they announced a huge upgrade program promising a game editor, modelling tools, VR support and multiplayer - It was being set up to be the FSX of Train simulators ... and then nothing. An entire 2 years later Dovetail Games as a developer is still promising game tools, and sharing twitch streams of Wip editor use but in reality the DTG Train sim studio is one middle aged software guy in his bedroom living off steam sales and TSW is a dead game. You have to talk openly with your community and treat us like adults. We're butt orientated flight sim nerds who spend our free time reading procedural manuals and doing check lists, many of us are developers in our day jobs, we know how this works. Pulling the same wool over our eyes as we do to our clients goes exactly as well as we know it does, poorly. Do the hard thing, tell us whats wrong, bring us along for the ride as you fix it, keep us at the forefront of the news cycle. You've missed two delivery dates, it would be wrong to compound those errors by leaving us in the dark with no comms, it's time to bring the client, us as a community, into the loop.

Final post of DCS World roadmap update thread - Kate Perederko: "[...]I have to admit that the release of the update last week didn't meet our expectations at all. We still have a lot of work to do with performance issues before we will be able to release it to the Stable branch. Please do not expect it to be released in April." Generally if your product is months away from being beta ready at deadline, you need to seriously reevaluate your expectations ... If ED can say now SC needs a boat load of work, why go through the pain of crashing deadlines you know you're not going to meet? It's fair to say thanks for the offer of your back catalogue but I'd rather you were upfront with how you are going to deliver on my purchase.

Yes "DCS World roadmap update" - 04-15-2020, 05:07 PM page 27 post #262 Just to clarify :smartass:

I have no doubt ED will -eventually- release something and I was fully clued in to the risks of supporting Early Access when I purchased, my disappointment stems from ED misselling me a module. To date Super Carrier has and will need an additional 4 months of development just to get it to a state where it can be sent to open beta. The point of sale front page and promotional material released made Super Carrier out to be a full fidelity, fully functioning complete module in the final stages of testing before general release to Early Access. In reality it would appear SC hadn't been beta tested and was instead a few nicely dressed up screenshots barely out of an alpha state. After missing the initial release date they used the false pretext of not releasing new modules during a sale to delay again and buy themselves an extra month of development. Eagle Dynamics then chose to hype up the 15th as release day even after the acknowledged internal realisation over the previous weekend they still did not have any module they could release. I get the impression the behind the scenes is a team of two or three guys working in their bedrooms trying to make a mod to an impossible time frame, they deserve a pay bonus and a proper paid holiday after this. But I like others have every right to be peed off and until ED management get their house in order its going to rightly cost them my business.

You agreed when you signed the contract / pressed pay to: "According to End-User License Agreement 5. All charges incurred when purchasing download DCS products from the DCS Store cannot be refunded or exchanged in whole or in part, regardless of the payment method. Early purchased product then goes on sale... If you have purchased a product from the DCS e-shop and the product then goes on sale (even an hour later), we are unable to provide any refund or price adjustment. All e-sales are final." ED are under no obligation to provide you with anything. You paid a bank account a sum of money for nothing with no refunds and agreed to it. You have the word of "Kate" from ED that they will offer refunds on SC if they miss their next deadline of May 2020 but its just words. The only consumer action you can take going forward is uninstall the game and share your experience.

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Yes Apologies for the cross post but feel this is one to share here for future reference & hopefully unnecessary info :surrender: Cheers

@Kate Perederko Will Eagle Dynamics be offering a refund on Super Carrier if ED fails to release the module by the new 'April-May 2020' deadline? thanks

This failure for me goes beyond just a delay. ED sold me a product that was in the final weeks before release on early access where in fact it has so far needed 4 months of further development to just get it out to beta testing. I spent $74.98 on SC and Hornet to use with it, which is not an insignificant amount of money. As a new player to DCS this leaves a very bitter taste and now I'm very much thinking of holding onto my sim bucks for FS2020.

- Bought Super Carrier 5th February as a Birthday present to myself in March. - News was late and then it was delayed a month. - Delayed again because 'ED doesn't release modules during sales'. - Discover Super Carrier is now being released on beta and will 'have to wait' for stable update. - Delayed a third time to "April-May 2020" with a "We plan to deliver all products out of Early Access this year". In my line of work with this level of incompetence and you holding onto my money I'd be talking to my solicitors. Unfortunately in this case all I can do is chalk it up to an early access failure. Bridge thoroughly burned ED, big shame :(

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Am I going to need a secret handshake to get into this beta? :D Much appreciate the info guys, thanks!

ED is releasing Super Carrier as a beta test first in the coming days. I've been trying to find out a rough time frame for when early access for SC will be made available on the stable game? I can't say I'm too happy finding out SC is releasing as a paid beta test instead of stable early access module. I feel the process to how ED releases new modules could have been explained better before purchase. That being said the risk of pre-ordering is entirely my own so it will be what it will be. What would be very much appreciated is if those of us who aren't beta testers could get a rough goal post time from ED for when Super Carrier will make it to the stable game. Are we talking a few weeks or more into the Autumn? Some info on the timeline going forward when SC releases to the beta would be great, Thanks :thumbup:

That's fair, I'm looking for a time frame for when that might be. Are we talking a few weeks or months? I'm trying to understand what it actually is that I've bought into by pre-purchasing Super Carrier. I was under the impression I'd bought early access to the module being released on a stable game. It's looking like I've accidentally bought into beta testing which I don't have the time to be a part of.

So April 15th is the date the game is going into open beta? To be fair to ED it does say "Requires DCS World Open Beta version 2.5.6 or above!" but the understanding was Super Carrier would be released to a stable 2.5.6 update. Would be good to get some clarity on the full release date for Super Carrier, are we talking a few weeks or more realistically Summer into Q3?

"...unless you are happy to wait until it makes it to stable version. I have no time frame for you at this stage." ED does know the difference between early access and open beta test right? Perhaps a more constructive question would be what time frame are we looking at for a stable 2.5.6 release so we can all get early access to Super Carrier? Thanks

Runway arrestor barriers on declaring an emergency to ATC would be a decent feature addition down the road :shifty:

Given the state of the world right now I'd fully support all pipeline work including SC being halted indefinitely until Covid-19 has passed. As a business your staff should be at home on lock down with their families, staying healthy and looking after the local community.

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The whole carrier idea is a flashy centrepiece but it does come off as trying to sail before you can swim. Unpopular idea I can imagine, but maybe split your losses now and release the carrier model as a standalone upgrade for $20 - refund the rest as Miles / Points to be spent in store. Whilst the community gets a flashy ship to play with, spend the next 10 months or so implementing game wide ATC / ground crew + ship interactions for a $20 upgrade around Christmas. Gives ED the time to get actors in studio and record animations + debug and iron into 2.5.6 :music_whistling:

As a random DCS player nüb what would help is just a weekly update, even if its 'hey no news this week but here's a screenshot of a boat'. Currently I'm getting my news from this sub forum and some chaps video off of Youtube who says 2.5.6 is having issues. As game nerds we all know by now how development works, Q + 6 months, so just tell us otherwise the community is hyped on edge waiting for something that doesn't arrive :book:

As Gina G once said ... just a little bit