Su-24 pilot and copilot eject AFTER crash.

Cant say they didnt tried hard enough !

http://i.gizmodo.com/5177025/combat-pilots-ejecting-after-aircraft-crash?autoplay=true

Nice. These pilots waited for the last moment trying to get control, but nice they made it alive. What can i say - russian ejection seats baby, yeah.

That's some shoddy flying on pilots part.

Is there usually that much smoke coming from the engines? They are very lucky the aircraft stayed mostly level as it crashed. Otherwise they might not be alive.

Is there usually that much smoke coming from the engines? They are very lucky the aircraft stayed mostly level as it crashed. Otherwise they might not be alive.

I just saw the same video on liveleak.

You can see the first and third plane and there is not that much smoke. Definitely some kind of issue. Darn Russian planes and their duct-taped wings !

That's some shoddy flying on pilots part.

That looks like one of my landings in Falcon 4. :ermm:

Russian ejection seats at their best!

That's some shoddy flying on pilots part.

It's ok when you see comments like these on those comment pages under the video where all kinds of people come. But I would expect a little more undarstanding here.

1) they had engine trouble incl. a stuck throttle, they could not get the speed down.

2) no, it's not normal for that plane to smoke that much. It even seems to me that was fuel going thru the fuel dump valve just before they landed. Don't think it was commanded.

3) they were ordered to eject, but tried to save the plane, risking their lives.

4) if that wasn't enough, some bastards then accused them for crashing the plane, and fined them one mil $ each (to be payed for the rest of their life)

and if that wasn't enough, they get people on the internet saying that it's poor flying.

:mad::mad::mad::mad:

PS.

here's a better version, posted by Namenlos Ein on photos/videos

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1b2_1237278935

Both pilots then looked like alive ;)

Malfunction or not, that is a case of pilot induced oscillation, should have kept his cool. OTOH, if there was not enough thrust to go around, then they could have ejected earlier, sparing us the noobish scene of PIO. I'm not one of those branwashed anti-Iran people that think the country is some terrorist hole (Saudi Arabia, US' best friend is however, yet they have block 60 F-16s). But this look like poor airmanship, although I wasn't in that cockpit at the time.

K-36 seats get you waaay up high, so you can have a nice view of the flames. :P Remember a ducumentary from pilot.strizhi.info (Smotr) on the Mig-31, and it had a video fragment of a slow speed ejection, while still on the runway. Well, those seats get really some air time, the first time I saw it I was like wow, that's twice as high as British/American seats. Oh, and the trajectory was straight up, Martin Baker/Douglas Escapac seats tend to pitch forward.

If boeing had won the JSF competition, and some congressman wasn't informed that there would be a russky designed ejection seat in the F-32, then we'd see more K-36 videos on youtube/liveleak :) Oh well, I'm sure the British are catching up, they have bridle-less foot restraints on the Mk.16, seems like the Mk.18 seat will have a windblast deflector, arm guards and maybe two tubes extending on ejection ;)

BTW, no British/US seat will match the K-36 in the near future because all Martin Baker does is making the seat, and that is not the whole package that is ejected. Zvezda designed everything, from the oxygen bottle to the small pyro charge to pop down the sun visor on ejection. And that makes the K-36 a good seat, everything is designed in unison, without subcontractors trying to make the helmet specifications by cutting corners...

Yeah, they could've done better, but it's not like it was any old landing, and they just screwed it up.. like some people see it.

...(Saudi Arabia, US' best friend is however, yet they have block 60 F-16s)...

 

...K-36 seats get you waaay up high, so you can have a nice view of the flames...

...Well, those seats get really some air time, the first time I saw it I was like wow, that's twice as high as British/American seats. Oh, and the trajectory was straight up, Martin Baker/Douglas Escapac seats tend to pitch forward....

If boeing had won the JSF competition, and some congressman wasn't informed that there would be a russky designed ejection seat in the F-32, then we'd see more K-36 videos on youtube/liveleak :) Oh well, I'm sure the British are catching up, they have bridle-less foot restraints on the Mk.16, seems like the Mk.18 seat will have a windblast deflector, arm guards and maybe two tubes extending on ejection ;)

 

BTW, no British/US seat will match the K-36 in the near future because all Martin Baker does is making the seat, and that is not the whole package that is ejected. Zvezda designed everything, from the oxygen bottle to the small pyro charge to pop down the sun visor on ejection. And that makes the K-36 a good seat, everything is designed in unison, without subcontractors trying to make the helmet specifications by cutting corners...

Saudi Arabia does not have block 60, only United Arab Emirates (UAE)

As long as an ejection seats get the pilot out of the aircrfat and safe his or hers life, does it really matter how high it goes and who makes them and how are they made etc.?

I know the only thing I am looking in a ejection seat is that it saves my life. I do not care how it does it.

Malfunction or not, that is a case of pilot induced oscillation, should have kept his cool.

Yep, that's right.

These guys didn't have an option of ejecting :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1POGEeZxRk

Saudi Arabia does not have block 60, only United Arab Emirates (UAE)

As long as an ejection seats get the pilot out of the aircrfat and safe his or hers life, does it really matter how high it goes and who makes them and how are they made etc.?

I know the only thing I am looking in a ejection seat is that it saves my life. I do not care how it does it.

Oh, confused one 'funder of terror' (and reason to spend money on counter terrorism ;)) with another...

The K-36 design philosophy was: Get the pilot out WITHOUT INJURIES, and not 'as fast as possible/quick chute, what happens to the body is not my concern' like our seats have. And you should care, because most pilots stillwant to fly afterwards, the tens of millions € that went into the training justifies that, and being bedridden or paralyzed is not that much better than being dead. So it does matter, too bad weight and cost seem to outweigh human life, and that is pathetic as those men and women are raging OUR wars.

The K-36 design philosophy was: Get the pilot out WITHOUT INJURIES, and not 'as fast as possible/quick chute, what happens to the body is not my concern' like our seats have. And you should care, because most pilots stillwant to fly afterwards, the tens of millions € that went into the training justifies that, and being bedridden or paralyzed is not that much better than being dead. So it does matter, too bad weight and cost seem to outweigh human life, and that is pathetic as those mens and women are raging OUR wars.

You got to be kidding right? When K-36 was released there was nothing even similar outside Russia to its performance, reliability and and ability to SAVE lives in extreme situations. And there wasn`t for years.

No, you just missunderstood him. He's saying that K-36 is good.

Oh, confused one 'funder of terror' (and reason to spend money on counter terrorism ;)) with another...

 

The K-36 design philosophy was: Get the pilot out WITHOUT INJURIES, and not 'as fast as possible/quick chute, what happens to the body is not my concern' like our seats have. And you should care, because most pilots stillwant to fly afterwards, the tens of millions € that went into the training justifies that, and being bedridden or paralyzed is not that much better than being dead. So it does matter, too bad weight and cost seem to outweigh human life, and that is pathetic as those men and women are raging OUR wars.

My point is and was that K-36 is not the only successful ejection seat and many many pilots have survive "less capable" seats, suffering little to injuries.

K-36 is not always successful nether.

http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Aircraft_by_Type/mig-29.htm

Nether is the ACES II

http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Aircraft_by_Type/F-16/USAF/f_16_USAF_00s.htm

More to a successful ejection than just the seat also. Many features of the K-36 where used by many other seat manufacturers for years. Again my point is, I rather have a "less capable " seat that no seat at all. I am sure I could survive a ejection in a Martin Baker or ACES as well with a K-36.

Also, I do not think I should care like you said, one of many dangers pilot are well aware when they strap to the seat.