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Greetings all! One of the biggest issues DCS has with the implementation of the SA-5 is the lack of possible search radars available to it resulting in it having much shorter range than it would in real life. @Recoil16 and I (almost entirely Recoil) sat down and hacked together an SA-5 Mod to utilize until ED adds the P-14 and PVR-13/PVR-17 height finding radars to the game and SA-5. The end result is an SA-5 with some teeth. As a test, I flew an F-16 at Mach 0.9, at 25k feet, on Syria, and was locked at 94miles and engaged at 80 miles. This is significantly better than the about 50 miles of the default SA-5 in the same conditions. Download at the GitHub Page: https://github.com/Recoil016/DCS-107th_SA-5 You'll be able to use the following Radars: -ST-68U Tin Shield (Default DCS) -P-19 Flat Face (Default DCS) -55G6 Nebo-U/Tall Rack (Default DCS, Added for those who don't want to use other mods) -P-37 Bar Lock (SAM Site Asset Pack/2SAP) -P-14 Tall King (P-14 Tall King Mod) **See Known Issues** Known Issues: -Comes up as an "Unknown" on RWR. Because of the way ED changed how RWR indications work, we cannot hijack the default SA-5's RWR indications like we could if it was an "older" SAM site like the SA-10. Therefore, on NATO RWR's, it will come up as a "U" for Unknown. -The P-14 Tall King Mod has an error in it's Sensor.lua which needs fixed in order to work. On their mod page (https://forum.dcs.world/topic/328269-p-14-tall-king-radar-v-10/#comment-5257238), at the bottom, you can see the fix. Easy enough! -You CANNOT mix the default SA-5 launchers or track radars with this mod and have them work. -Skynet Compatibility hasn't been tested. Install: Installs into your DCS Saved Game's Folder. File structure should allow for a direct drop into the Saved Game Folder or use of a mod manager. Bugs, etc: If you find any bugs, let us know here or on the GitHub and we'll try and work through them! Thanks!
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Hi everyone, I've spotted a minor issue with the newly added S-200/SA-5, when the missile launches, it does a small pitch-down manoeuvre before returning to it's proper trajectory. According to this, the 5V28 is unguided for the first 0.45 - 0.85 s into flight, afterwhich the control surfaces enable to guide the missile. It doesn't really affect the missiles performance, but it does clip through the launcher when firing. I also noticed that the rear ring shaped staging element isn't present in game, and consequently the rear supports for the boosters aren't attached to anything, though this is more an object bug, the ring shaped staging element is present in the modelviewer. Both issues are incredibly minor, and you'll only notice these when you're right up close to it and with time slowed down. S-200V_Launch.trk
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Hi everyone, I'm sure most people are aware that an S-200/SA-5 SAM system (more specifically the S-200V 'Vega' [SA-5b Gammon]) has been in development by ED for quite some time now, and has been teased numerous times in various teaser videos and screenshots, and for a long time some components of it were present in the modelviewer (such as the missile and various elements thereof, I believe the launcher too). However, what we haven't seen is an appropriate search/acquisition radar for the system yet, only the launcher (5P72), FCR (5N62V (K-1V) [Square Pair]) and missile (V-880/5V28). There are 2 types of radars (and their accompanying height-finders) that are best suited for this system, and I will detail them below: The most common search/acquisition radar associated with the SA-5 is the 5N84A (P-14F) 'Oborona-14' [Tall King C], which is an improved, transportable version of the P-14 radar (though takes over a day to set-up). This radar is a very large, VHF, 2D radar, with a maximum instrumented range of 600km. 5N84A: Note the OdAZ-828 derived operator/electronics cabin, and an NRZ-14 IFF interrogator (using the Kremniy-2 (Silicon-2) IFF system). 5N84A specifications: As mentioned, this radar is only 2D capable so once again, it is paired up with a separate height-finding radar; typically a PRV-13 [Odd Pair] or a PRV-17 [Odd Group] (not sure which is more common at SA-5 sites, though the former WARPAC SA-5 site shown below uses a PRV-17). PRV-13: PRV-17: PRV-13 and PRV-17 specifications: For IFF systems, it seems that the Kremny-2 was used, followed by the Parol system. The above image and this image (on the right) show the 5N84A with what I think is an NRZ-12 NRZ-14 [Score Board (?)] interrogation antenna [EDIT: whereas this image shows a variant of the Parol system (likely an NRZ-2P/73E6)]. According to this, the Parol variant used with the 5N84A radar is the NRZ-2P (73E6) Parol-4. Here's a 1L22-1 Parol-4 at a former Czechoslovak S-200VE/SA-5b site near Dobříš in Czechia (see below), it's located on one of the elevated concrete platforms (so-called "Bridges") for the 5N62V FCRs. For more information about these IFF systems, this seems to be a pretty decent resource. I imagine a typical 5N84A + PRV-13 site looks something like this (this looks to be an EW station, presumably serving as part of an IADS/GCI station): Note the various operator and electronics cabins, as well as what are possibly separate IFF systems, I think there's also a P-18 'Terek' [Spoon Rest D] in the background, behind the PRV-13). I've also seen the P-35M/P-37 'Saturn' [Bar Lock/Bar Lock B] mentioned too, though when looking at real world SA-5 sites (i.e battery level radars), I've only ever seen the 5N84A + PRV-17/-13 combination. My hunch is that these radars are found in more of an IADS set-up where you might have the P-35M/-37 stationed at remote EWR sites, that are networked as part of an IADS, with the S-200 integrated within. I'll include it here however to be on the safe side (it is a fairly common REDFOR/WARPAC radar), though when dealing with remote EWR sites several radars are candidates. This is a transportable, VHF, 2D radar, with a distictive antenna setup and integrated IFF, with a maximum instrumented range of approximately 460km (250 nmi). Full specifications (that I've found) in the spoiler below. P-37: P-37 specifications: As previously mentioned this radar is again 2D only, so it is paired up with a separate height-finding radar; AFAIK this is a typically a PRV-11 [Side Net], though I have also seen it paired with a PRV-16 [Thin Skin B] again, specifications down below. PRV-11: PRV-16: PRV-11 and PRV-16 specifications: Here's a site showing a P-35/P-35M/P-37 and a PRV-16: Now both the P-37 and PRV-11 should be familiar, as we actually have both of them in DCS, it's just they're completely non-functional (though are animated) eye-candy, that spawn automatically at most airfields in the Caucasus map, with no control over placement or presence in the ME (at the moment though, the P-37 is always mounted on a grass mound, personally, the mound (or an updated version of it) should be a static object). EDIT: At this former Czechoslovak S-200VE/SA-5b site (Dobříš), a 5N84AE (export 5N85A) and a PRV-17 is present (see here (or here for a translated version), for an amazing description of the site, with plenty of photographs and reference material). EDIT 2: ED have now clarified that they're doing a Syrian SA-5 (which is an S-200VE 'Vega-E' [SA-5b Gammon], which is the same as used in the above former Czechoslovak SA-5 shown above, the vast majority of these also have a P-14 and an appropriate height-finder radar located either on site, or a short distance away. The only site I've found that doesn't is colocated with a Russian S-400 site, presumably piggy backing off of its radars (such as the 96L6E2), though there is a height-finder present (EDIT: this site historically had a 5N84AE present). See this post for links to satellite images of the Syrian SA-5 sites that I've found.