Fishbreath Posted February 11, 2014 Posted February 11, 2014 I've noticed this a few times: when you select the ERBL submode off of the map, the ABRIS changes its display so that north is up (rather than the default, which is aircraft heading). When you leave ERBL mode, the map remains oriented so that north is up until you cycle ABRIS modes back around to map, at which point it goes back to aircraft heading. Is this intended? Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission
ShuRugal Posted February 12, 2014 Posted February 12, 2014 no idea if the real thing works that way, but i definitely prefer it. The only time i use ERBL is if i am A: convertaing a range and bearing someone gave me into a position or B: giving someone else a range and bearing to a position. In both instances, i want north to be up for ease of orientation. TL;DR: when North is Up, i know that "SSE" is "Right and slightly down" but when North is "down and 5/8 to the left", I have only a vague idea where SSE is.
Fishbreath Posted February 12, 2014 Author Posted February 12, 2014 No, I agree that it ought to be north-up when in ERBL mode, but going from ERBL back to NAV mode behaves oddly—it respects your setting for helo position (so it snaps back to 20% up from the bottom, by default), but it doesn't respect your setting for map orientation (so north stays up, and the map isn't all that useful if you're flying south). It's not that much of a hassle, but I'm not sure it's supposed to work that way. Black Shark, Harrier, and Hornet pilot Many Words - Serial Fiction | Ka-50 Employment Guide | Ka-50 Avionics Cheat Sheet | Multiplayer Shooting Range Mission
ajax Posted February 16, 2014 Posted February 16, 2014 Instead of cycling all the way through the ABRIS modes to get the orientation back, simply select the FPL mode and back. This is the fastest way I've found to reset the orientation.
StrongHarm Posted November 3, 2014 Posted November 3, 2014 This problem persists and is very annoying. I wouldn't call it critical, but it is a big greasy zit on the forehead of an otherwise beautiful girl. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
StrongHarm Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 No dude.. it's not as simple as a 'didn't read the manual' problem. I myself love the manual and have been through it dozens of times.. You read the OP? It's about NAV not returning to the orientation specified in options.. after returning to NAV from ERBL... I really appreciate the big red 'are you stupid or what?' arrow though.. thanks for that! heheh It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Isegrim Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Yes you are correct i just did overfly the Topic on the phone when i was going home from work. And did almost there wonder about the point of this proplem because its been to easy. And here at home i didnt read the Topic again. :D EDIT: Oh and its never a "Are you stupid arrow" its an "there it is arrow" im not such kind of person. Edited November 5, 2014 by Isegrim "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
StrongHarm Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 That IS a ginormous red arrow though.. it's like the 'do not eat' warning on the anti-moisture capsules.. heheh I meant no implication and intended it in good humor.. text is such a poor medium for human expression. Forgive me. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Isegrim Posted November 5, 2014 Posted November 5, 2014 That IS a ginormous red arrow though.. it's like the 'do not eat' warning on the anti-moisture capsules.. heheh I meant no implication and intended it in good humor.. text is such a poor medium for human expression. Forgive me. Null Proplemo :D "Blyat Naaaaa" - Izlom
Metal Hawk Posted November 14, 2014 Posted November 14, 2014 So what's the verdict for this. Is it normal? Is it how in an actual BS works? Is it a bug? Will it stay like this? Will it be fixed?
flanker0ne Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 ERBL and INFO pages are supposed to work this way. SCOPRI DI PIU': https://www.amvi.it/joinus.php DISCORD COMBINEDOPS The Battle Planning Tool
Metal Hawk Posted November 15, 2014 Posted November 15, 2014 I know that. I was asking the same thing as the OP, that is about the orientation setting lost if you enter ERBL that needs cycling ABRIS modes back around to map mode to revert the setting in map mode.
StrongHarm Posted November 16, 2014 Posted November 16, 2014 I think it's important to fully understand the subject before you post. This problem is that the NAV page loses orientation after using ERBL. If this is the way the Blackshark works IRL, it's either an engineering limitation or is bugged as well. It's a good thing that this is Early Access and we've all volunteered to help test and enhance this work in progress... despite the frustrations inherent in the task with even the simplest of software... otherwise people might not understand that this incredibly complex unfinished module is unfinished. /light-hearted sarcasm
Rangoon Posted March 6, 2015 Posted March 6, 2015 I agree that it sure appears to be a bug. It's distracting/disorienting going back to NAV and having your map left in North Up from the ERBL submode, then having to cycle through four pages or whatever getting it sorted. I wonder, if it *is* a feature, if they found it disorienting to the pilot to go digging in the ERBL mode and then have the orientation flip around again while trying to put these new discoveries into action on the Nav page. But I doubt it.
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