BronzeBuddha Posted May 26, 2014 Posted May 26, 2014 Both aircraft are considered to be 4.5 generation fighter. So how do these two aircraft stack up in terms of aerodynamic performance, avionics, weapons, etc.?
RIPTIDE Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Well, once the Su-35S pulls a kobra/kulbit, the Typhoon would be smoked. lol [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
USARStarkey Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 My vote is on the P-51 [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Weed Be gone Needed
*Rage* Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Petition ED to make a DCS-Su35 and we will see:) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
outlawal2 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 LOL That made my day.. :lol: "Pride is a poor substitute for intelligence." RAMBO
Exorcet Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 We don't know Indeed, but we can still have a big (civil) argument over it. They're probably fairly close in capability. The EF has a "smarter" radar, but the Su-35's is more powerful. I've also seen greater detection capabilities cited for PIRATE than the OLS-35, but that could be down to different criteria used for each evaluation. The EF might be faster, I think it has supercruised to M 1.3 even with weapons which is something I haven't heard any other comparable fighter do. It's also quite small with sharply swept wings. The Su might win out in terms of range or loiter, and with its proposed very long range weapons it could be a real threat to large aircraft. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
Emu Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 I was doing some reading around the Typhoon lately and it's getting some pretty amazing EW stuff by 2016 besides the new AESA radar. CAPTOR-E with passive, active and cyberwarfare jamming capabilities New digital interferometric ESM receivers for precise geolocation of RF threats Improved low band detection and jamming. New antennae for increased jamming ERP. Passive missile warning system. BriteCloud DRFM expendable jammers (smart chaff) Not sure where that puts it against an Su-35S though, nor am I going to guess.:smilewink:
Weta43 Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Improved low band detection and jamming. I step, you step, I step, you step, :) Cheers.
Pilotasso Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Biggest difference between the 2 right know would be the weapons they employ. Appart from that the EF was designed to face a then Su-37 terminator with uberized capabilities. But it has been lagging behind the planned capabilities due to budget cuts. Right know the Su-35 has a planar radar array, the EF does not. In a couple of years though it will, and paired with the meteor. That will be hard to beat. .
BronzeBuddha Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 Indeed, but we can still have a big (civil) argument over it. They're probably fairly close in capability. The EF has a "smarter" radar, but the Su-35's is more powerful. I've also seen greater detection capabilities cited for PIRATE than the OLS-35, but that could be down to different criteria used for each evaluation. The EF might be faster, I think it has supercruised to M 1.3 even with weapons which is something I haven't heard any other comparable fighter do. It's also quite small with sharply swept wings. The Su might win out in terms of range or loiter, and with its proposed very long range weapons it could be a real threat to large aircraft. Thank you. I wasn't trying to start a flame war or start claiming "Aircraft A is so much better than Aircraft B." From aerodynamic perspective, I'm inclined to believe that the Su-35 has the edge in the transsonic region while the Typhoon will have the advantage in the supersonic, as it was designed to.
Emu Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Biggest difference between the 2 right know would be the weapons they employ. Appart from that the EF was designed to face a then Su-37 terminator with uberized capabilities. But it has been lagging behind the planned capabilities due to budget cuts. Right know the Su-35 has a planar radar array, the EF does not. In a couple of years though it will, and paired with the meteor. That will be hard to beat. And it will be a matter of active vs passive radar but honestly, with these new targeting capable ESM systems, I'm not sure using a radar will even be a good idea in future combat.:( I have heard that the forthcoming K-77M has an AESA seeker, whether the Meteor does, I don't know. Edited May 27, 2014 by Emu
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