facetrackernoIR

[mipko]

hello friends,

 

I just tried facetrackernoIR free tracker setup and want to inform you that it works :) It is a bit choppy but it will give me fun until trackIR arrives. The good thing is that there are no wires or anything - only webcam and piece of software and it is FREE :) I have tried it with MIG 21 and it is whole lot of fun :)

 

regards

Mirko

[Mtnbiker1998]

I've been looking into facetracknoir for a few days now thinking about installing it. What kind of set up does it require? Is it simply download, start up dcs and enjoy or is there more to it?

[mipko]

Hi,

 

Just download following:

 

1. facetracknoIR v1.70
    
   
2. v1.70 hotfix
   

 

depending on your system 32 bit or 64 bit you need to download either file

 

• Eagle Dynamics API 32bit
   
  
• Eagle Dynamics API 64bit
  

 

Install facetrackernoIR, hotfix and deploy ED API.

 

than start tweaking with curves, and profile.

 

I hope this gives you initial hints. I have sony camera some that comes with the TV - nothing fancy and it works quite OK. You can check camera compatibility list on facetrackernoIR web site.

 

regards

Mipko

[Mtnbiker1998]

 

depending on your system 32 bit or 64 bit you need to download either file

 

• Eagle Dynamics API 32bit
   
  
• Eagle Dynamics API 64bit
  

 

 

Should these be placed somewhere in the dcs files? or onto my desktop or anywhere else?

 

Thanks for the help.

[mipko]

put it in

 

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\bin

 

M.

[Mtnbiker1998]

Alright! I think I'm almost done annoying you... I think I have everything set up, I'm still tweaking it but I can look around, although I have one last issue. I can't click any buttons in the P-51 cockpit.

[mipko]

Hi biker,

 

I have no clue for that issue - check mouse events in control options.

 

M

[Mowgli]

using FTNIR with microsoft HD3000 web cam - gets 30 FPS. if i buy the PS3 Eye camera can i use it without the 3LEDclip? on the web i saw instructions to remove a filter if i don't use a clip? is it right?

 

thanks

[mota67]

Hi,

 

If you have a PS3 Eye you can use it without 3LEDclip and without removing any filters in the cam. You will have to use the FaceAPI as tracker source.

[Knowlynn]

using FTNIR with microsoft HD3000 web cam - gets 30 FPS. if i buy the PS3 Eye camera can i use it without the 3LEDclip? on the web i saw instructions to remove a filter if i don't use a clip? is it right?

 

thanks

 

I use a ps3eye(filter remover) with a 3 led hat at 60fps. You do not need a clip if you use the built in face tracking software. However, you can use point tracking with an led clip which is WAY more responsive and accurate.

 

If you want to use face tracking, you do not need to remove the IR filter. You only need to remove the IR filter if you plan on useing a clip with IR LEDs (like trackir).

 

If you do decide to remove the ps3eye IR filter you can pm me for help. There are two types of ps3eyes out there. The one I got was of the type which is harder to modify.

[Mowgli]

Hi,

 

If you have a PS3 Eye you can use it without 3LEDclip and without removing any filters in the cam. You will have to use the FaceAPI as tracker source.

 

I use a ps3eye(filter remover) with a 3 led hat at 60fps. You do not need a clip if you use the built in face tracking software. However, you can use point tracking with an led clip which is WAY more responsive and accurate.

 

If you want to use face tracking, you do not need to remove the IR filter. You only need to remove the IR filter if you plan on useing a clip with IR LEDs (like trackir).

 

If you do decide to remove the ps3eye IR filter you can pm me for help. There are two types of ps3eyes out there. The one I got was of the type which is harder to modify.

 

Thanks guys for the quick response and info. wanna try it just to get more stability via FPS. here in Israel there isn't any seller/importer of TrackIR so it's only if someone is flying to the states.:noexpression:

[txmtb]

If using the point tracker test it first before going through the hassle of removing the IR filter. I use a removable camera visible light filter on my Ps3Eye to block visible light and it works great without removing the IR filter.

[Knowlynn]

Thanks guys for the quick response and info. wanna try it just to get more stability via FPS. here in Israel there isn't any seller/importer of TrackIR so it's only if someone is flying to the states.:noexpression:

 

If that's your situation then I would recommend building your own 3point led hat.

This would include;

Building your own led hat(3 IR LEDs, resistor, wires, usb cable)

Removing the IR filter and adding a visible light filter(2 layers of floppy disk magnetic film does the trick)

 

Good instructions can be found here http://forum.free-track.net/index.php?showtopic=1856

 

Since the shipping costs of all the tiny inexpensive parts that you need will likely be a fix rate, it might be a good idea to but spare parts and give them to friends if Israel is in need of head tracking.

[Mowgli]

If using the point tracker test it first before going through the hassle of removing the IR filter. I use a removable camera visible light filter on my Ps3Eye to block visible light and it works great without removing the IR filter.

 

the point tracker is if i use 3Led clip right? couse as Knowlynn wrote - I'm gonna test it with Face tracking

 

and yes i tried once to build my own clip and ended up frustrated. should give it another chance!

 

thanks mate

peace

Edited November 19, 2014 by Mowgli

[Knowlynn]

and yes i tried once to build my own clip and ended up frustrated. should give it another chance!

 

thanks mate

peace

 

I would recommend building a 3 point hat over the 3 point clip because it is more vertically symmetrical. I originally built a clip which was mounted onto the left side of my headphones. I found that looking far right was much easier then looking far left so I developed a habit of always looking right to check my 6. Since switching to a 3 point hat looking left and right feels the same.

 

I am considering a wireless setup similar to a trackir 5 reflective clip. Basically I would take the 3 IR leds from my hat and mount them next to my ps3eye. Then, mount three reflective surfaces on my hat. I'm just not sure how well it would work so I am hesitant.

[Aerovenator]

I use facetracknoir a long time. First I used it with the faceAPI but was never satisified with it. It was not very steady and so I had difficulties using the cockpit switches. I am not an engineer:-), so soldering my own LED Clip was not an option. Then I found this site and bought a DelanClip for 25 GBP.

 

http://www.delanengineering.com/

 

Using the delanclip with the Point tracker is marvellous compared with the faceApi.

 

One hint: Instead of using the filter within the package (which dimmed the camera too much in my room) I used the "glasses" of a 3D eyeglass from the cinema. Thanks to polarization you can define the filter strength by using both foils and twisting them against each other.