chromium Posted October 26, 2014 Posted October 26, 2014 Hi, I would like a suggestion about what Russian AC could be used for exploit enemy ground assets as US Predator does in F10 Map, it doesn't matter if it's helos or aircraft. Thanks in advance :) Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
chromium Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Tried: Su-24 (reiconnance task) Mi-8MTV2 Mi-24 (reiconnance task) they do not work as intended. The appearance of enemy units in the F10 map is only when they got shoot by ground fire. Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
Grimes Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 Try the Mi-28 or Su-34. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
chromium Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Wilco Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
chromium Posted October 27, 2014 Author Posted October 27, 2014 Well, the both work almost as intended (Mi-28 better than Su-34). May I ask you what made you believe about those two ACs? Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
Grimes Posted October 27, 2014 Posted October 27, 2014 It has to do with the "sensors" available to a given aircraft and how AI react via those sensors. All aircraft AI have "eye" sensors that determine what all they can see. Things like targets moving or shooting and the targeting systems/sensors on the aircraft determine how well AI can spot threats. An approximate ranking of quality of sensors for helicopters would be... Mi-8<Mi-24<Mi-28N. Simply put, Mi-28 and Su-34 have FLIR. The other russian aircraft you tested do not. The right man in the wrong place makes all the difference in the world. Current Projects: Grayflag Server, Scripting Wiki Useful Links: Mission Scripting Tools MIST-(GitHub) MIST-(Thread) SLMOD, Wiki wishlist, Mission Editing Wiki!, Mission Building Forum
chromium Posted October 28, 2014 Author Posted October 28, 2014 That's clear. We miss some sort of russian drone... :( Author of DSMC, mod to enable scenario persistency and save updated miz file Stable version & site: https://dsmcfordcs.wordpress.com/ Openbeta: https://github.com/Chromium18/DSMC The thing is, helicopters are different from planes. An airplane by it's nature wants to fly, and if not interfered with too strongly by unusual events or by a deliberately incompetent pilot, it will fly. A helicopter does not want to fly. It is maintained in the air by a variety of forces in opposition to each other, and if there is any disturbance in this delicate balance the helicopter stops flying; immediately and disastrously.
vicx Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 Just adding my observations to this thread. I have been having a read through the sensor definition tables to get a better idea of the sensor capabilities of certain units. What I have tested is the capabilities of the Predator and Reaper. In terms of sensors the most unique difference between the two is that the Reaper has a ground scanning radar that can detect vehicles. It can do this at a pretty decent range through thick (100% cover, 1000m high) and low (1000m) clouds. The FLIR and Optical sensors are useless in this situation. The Reaper can also detect missile launches and take evasive maneuvers (not with great success) but it can confirm that a radar contact is a launcher (just before it gets shot down). This is the radar sensor that the Reaper has but that Predator does not. ["RQ-1 Predator SAR"] = { type = RADAR_SS, vehicles_detection = true, RCS = 5, RBM_detection_distance = 40000.0, HRM_detection_distance = 28000.0, scan_volume = { azimuth = {-180.0, 180.0}, elevation = {-90.0, 20.0} }, max_measuring_distance = 100000.0, scan_period = 5.0, }, Curious to know what RCS, RBM, HRM are about.
Stonehouse Posted October 29, 2014 Posted October 29, 2014 RCS = radar cross section but the others - perhaps real beam mapping for RBM I think and High resolution map for HRM ?? both A/G radar modes I believe for picking up ground targets If my guesses are right here's a link that talks about these modes on an F15e http://www.f-15e.info/joomla/en/technology/avionics/65-radar-system
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