Devrim Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Hi... Although there're lots of monitor in my country, I'm obsessed on Samsung monitors. But, I have to admit to myself, my budget is very limited. So, in one hand there's a Samsung 23" full HD LED monitor, and in other hand (almost same price) there's a Asus 23" IPS LED monitor. I know what Samsung is doing on TVs or monitors, I admire it, but I have no any idea about what Asus does with monitors... Which one would you choose, or what would you recommend about a new monitor? Thank you. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Demon_ Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) IPS monitors are better. Anyway, in the same range of price, they probably use the same panel. What is the model number of those monitors. I have some link about the panel (at home). Edited November 20, 2014 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
cichlidfan Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 I am sitting in front of an ASUS PA248Q LED IPS that I have been using for a year and a half. I am very happy with it. IMHO, IPS monitors are very nice with TIR since you are often looking at the screen at a slight angle. Generally speaking, IPS monitors do a better job of maintaining color over different viewing angles. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Devrim Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Thanks friends. Actually I know Asus for years, but couldn't trust their monitors. When talking about monitors, Samsung comes into my mind. I don't know if that's a mistake... But Asus monitors' design and finish quality really get my attention. Demon; I was walking around in some computer-stores and web-sites for just see the prices. Didn't stick on any model so far. My main concern was that Asus promises more quality and features than Samsung in equal price (maybe it's in my country). I'll try to get model numbers for comparing. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
etcher Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 What about Iiyama ? They've been making very good monitors for a long time. I own a ton of those and didn't have any kind of problem whatsoever with any of them. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
McMicha Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 Hello Devrim, how about 3 of these monitors... 1920 x 1920 pixel... from Eizo CU Simpit Software by SDA "SIMPIT DEVELOPER ASSOCIATION" DCS ExportScript D.A.C. DCS to Arcaze Communicator Ikarus a new Virtual Cockpit Software Deutscher Forums Thread English Forums Thread Hard/Software: AMD Ryzen 7 1800X, 32 GiB RAM, extra SSD for Windows 10 and DCS World, AMD Vega Frontier Edition with 16 GiB VRAM
Devrim Posted November 20, 2014 Author Posted November 20, 2014 Wow guys! Very interesting devices they are! :) Thank you. I think this is firs time I've heard of them. Yea they're being sold in Turkey, but not common. I'll examine them. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Demon_ Posted November 20, 2014 Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) Note: The Samsung are not VESA. http://www.tnpanel.com/tn-vs-ips-va/ http://www.pchardwarehelp.com/guides/lcd-panel-types.php http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/panelsearch.htm I have 3 Samsung and 3 Asus. I recommend Asus. Edited November 20, 2014 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Demon_ Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Compare to compare. The Samsung S27B350 has a horrible backlight bleed almost everywhere to the bezels. I have 3 monitors... Same! The black is the same as the Asus when you choose the "low" black level setting of the Samsung monitor. The case and the stand are crap plastic. No Vesa! The buttons are ... too. The black of the Asus VN279QL is homogeneous. The backlight bleed is not perceptible. I see no bleed. 3 monitors. The stand is awesome. But this model is more expensive because of the stand. Vesa. Thanks! Edited November 25, 2014 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Devrim Posted November 25, 2014 Author Posted November 25, 2014 Really thanks a lot Demon! I think I'll choose Asus this time. Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Haukka81 Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 I may be late but take high res monitor if you can. 1080 is not good vertical res for flight sims where targets are fast And small , i have now 2560x1440 ips And it Really makes spotting targets easier. Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Devrim Posted November 25, 2014 Author Posted November 25, 2014 Thank you very much Haukka. My limited budget restricts me, but I'll keep it in my mind. ;) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
*Rage* Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 1440 or 1600 makes a big difference, but you need the GPU power as well. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
Haukka81 Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Thank you very much Haukka. My limited budget restricts me, but I'll keep it in my mind. ;) Same here until i find this http://2560x1440monitor.com/ Very good shop, ultra fast delivery. Took 2 days from korea to finland. :thumbup: Take look :smilewink: I have this : http://www.2560x1440monitor.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=17&product_id=82 Dollar course is low :) Edited November 25, 2014 by Haukka81 Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Buckeye Posted November 25, 2014 Posted November 25, 2014 Really thanks a lot Demon! I think I'll choose Asus this time. Good choice! Rig: SimLab P1X Chassis | Tianhang Base PRO + Tianhang F-16 Grip w/ OTTO Buttons | Custom Throttletek F/A-18C Throttle w/ Hall Sensors + OTTO switches and buttons | Slaw Device RX Viper Pedals w/ Damper Tactile: G-Belt | 2x BK LFE + 1x BK Concert | 2x TST-429 | 1x BST-300EX | 2x BST-1 | 6x 40W Exciters | 2x NX3000D | 2x EPQ304 PC/VR: Somnium VR1 Visionary | 4090 | 12700K
Devrim Posted November 25, 2014 Author Posted November 25, 2014 Thanks all for your attention and help. Best wishes... :) Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Demon_ Posted November 26, 2014 Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) The Samsung S27B350 and the Asus VN279QL (portrait). The big dark shadow you see on the left bottom side of the Asus (close to the Samsung) is me. I think it's not only the brand but the model too. Edited November 26, 2014 by Demon_ Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Devrim Posted November 29, 2014 Author Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) More questions: :) 1) My favourite DELL monitors in my country generally have 6 or 8 ms. return time. Is that so important or should I choose 2 or 5 ms. monitors? 2) If I like a monitor to buy I see that its brt. value is 250 cd/m2. Other monitors are 300 cd/m2. I'm using my PC in my room that doesn't see sunlight directly. Is 250 enough for me, or should I choose 300 cd/m2 one? 3) IPS or PLS? :) Thank you. Edited November 29, 2014 by Devrim Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Haukka81 Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 Just forget all sellers propaganda like 2.5 or 8millisecond etc,, things. 2ms monitor can be slower than 5ms monitor because those are just marketing things and response time is measured at the manufacture and each manufacture does it "kind of" differently. ;) Just read this and you be much smarter http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/articles/response_time.htm :) Btr.value is same thing, can't be sure. Try to find real review from here http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews.htm or other trusted places :) Oculus CV1, Odyssey, Pimax 5k+ (i5 8400, 24gb ddr4 3000mhz, 1080Ti OC ) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
sobek Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 I am sitting in front of an ASUS PA248Q LED IPS that I have been using for a year and a half. I am very happy with it. Same here, excellent stand, very good panel for the price, very energy efficient, reasonably quick, especially for IPS, over all *very* good bang for your buck. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
Devrim Posted November 30, 2014 Author Posted November 30, 2014 ...I'd suggest to stick with 24" if you're flying Full HD (1920x1080) resolution.Merhaba. Thanks. :) Why especially 24 inch? What's wrong with 27"? :) Just forget all sellers propaganda like 2.5 or 8millisecond etc,, things. Thanks for great info Haukka! Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
Demon_ Posted November 30, 2014 Posted November 30, 2014 The refresh time of a 60Hz monitor is 16.6ms... Manufactures measure their monitors response time a little differently and it makes it hard to use that as a spec to compare models with. In the end it is mostly driven by marketing. Nothing is wrong with the 27" at 1920x1080. But for bigger than 27", some suggest bigger resolution. Purchase a 27" if you can, of course :thumbup: Attache ta tuque avec d'la broche.
Devrim Posted December 4, 2014 Author Posted December 4, 2014 (edited) Guys. I want to thank you all again, for your comments, advice and helps. Last weeks, I had a chance to review my budget (monitor, house demands, baby's stuff, aaaand maybe a new graphics card etc.etc.). So, I've bought a PLS LED monitor, not IPS. Samsung 27-inch S27D590 I was worried about the differences between 250cd/m2 and 300 cd/m2, but at first run, the first thing what I've done was reducing the brightness 50% :) It has 178 degree view angle - love it. 5 ms. response time looks better than my older Samsung that has 2 ms. response time. DCS is now really great. New colors, new contrast, very thin design... I fell in love with this monitor and DCS World (again). Well, thanks all. Best wishes... Edited December 4, 2014 by Devrim Intel i7-14700@5.6GHz | MSI RTX4080 SuperSuprimX | Corsair V. 64GB@6400MHz. | Samsung 1TB 990 PRO SSD (Win10Homex64) Samsung G5 32" + Samsung 18" + 2x8"TFT Displays | TM Warthog Stick w/AVA Base | VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle | TM MFD Cougars | Logitech G13, G230, G510, PZ55 & Farming Sim Panel | TIR5 & M.Quest3 VR >>MY MODS<< | Discord: Devrim#1068
cichlidfan Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Samsung makes good displays (two phones, three tablets and a TV in my house). :thumbup: ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
313_Nevo Posted December 12, 2014 Posted December 12, 2014 I will be so brave to post here also my question :) whats particularly wrong with using TV instead of PC monitor? response time? ... do anyone use TV for PC gaming?
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