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I tried to search for any kind of correction on the radar target position indicators and found nothing. So, is the manual correct on the:

 

Inverted T sign = Target above you.

Combined inverted and T sign = Target on your level.

T sign = Target below you.

 

I'm getting quite opposite results between above and below. Is it the manual or the radar that is misleading here?

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Yeah i haven't quite figured that out yet, usually i just keep going up and down till i see a ┼ sign... but i think ┴ means it's above you and ┬ means its beneath you.

 

alt+196 = ─ enemy

alt+205 = ═ friendly

alt+197 = ┼ co-alt

alt+193 = ┴ above

alt+194 = ┬ beneath

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In my experience, the radar is quite imprecise regarding contact height. "T", for example, appears very rarely, and targets on my level are often marked as "Inverted T", over me. So yes, the manual is accurate, the radar is not :megalol:

Usually if I need to be level with something I lock it up for a second, since the radar seems to be more accurate that way.

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"T", for example, appears very rarely, (...)

The radar has very limited look-down capabilities. Iirc it is only -1.5° and therefore it is not really surprising that you can't see many targets below you when you are usually flying level.

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Yeah i haven't quite figured that out yet, usually i just keep going up and down till i see a ┼ sign... but i think ┴ means it's above you and ┬ means its beneath you.

 

alt+196 = ─ enemy

alt+205 = ═ friendly

alt+197 = ┼ enemy co-alt

alt+193 = ┴ enemy above

alt+194 = ┬ enemy beneath

alt+202 = ╩ friendly above

alt+203 = ╦ friendly beneath

 

haven't really figured one out for friendly co alt...

 

Are you sure about that ? When you click the IFF button the only symbols are - and =, height information shouldn't be appearing.

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Are you sure about that ? When you click the IFF button the only symbols are - and =, height information shouldn't be appearing.

 

yeah that's right,... derp...makemyderp.jpg

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No science here, but I did set a test mission with one Su-27 flying 900km/h directly towards me on various altitudes.

Right after mission start I set myself into active pause and let the Su-27 fly on my radar. Lines are not dead accurate, but the results were well...

 

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For the last a random picture from multiplayer of a player F-15C, no one else over there.

My nose was pointing ahead of him whole climb. Got only a T.

Kept pushing nose down for inverted T, no hope. Angle looks bit extreme because of the delay I guess. It went blank on the next scan.

 

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Only thing I can do right now is scratch my head and throw my eyes out of the window.

 

In manual I believe. :book:

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Thank you Bassly for the write up! Good work!

 

For the last a random picture from multiplayer of a player F-15C, no one else over there.

My nose was pointing ahead of him whole climb. Got only a T.

Kept pushing nose down for inverted T, no hope. Angle looks bit extreme because of the delay I guess. It went blank on the next scan.

 

Just keep in mind that the radar is pitch and bank angle stabilized 30° in all directions. That means that the radar will keep level and at a constant pitch to the horizon as long as you don't exceed pitch or bank values.

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Thank you Bassly for the write up! Good work!

 

Just keep in mind that the radar is pitch and bank angle stabilized 30° in all directions. That means that the radar will keep level and at a constant pitch to the horizon as long as you don't exceed pitch or bank values.

 

Oh yeah. That's a very important thing to take into account when using the radar. Don't mind too much on the red circle, I just threw it somewhere on the dashboard and tapped on the manual.

 

Nice Post Bassly! I stole one of the Images for my collection, if that's OK with you.

 

So apparently, they *are* inverted.

 

All yours.

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Oh yeah. That's a very important thing to take into account when using the radar. Don't mind too much on the red circle, I just threw it somewhere on the dashboard and tapped on the manual.

 

 

 

All yours.

 

I have the same problem. The radar is not consistent in showing contacts above as an inverted T, contacts as the same level as +, and contacts below as T. While I can lock to get pitch info on the target, this obviously has its drawbacks (ie, you lose search mode, alert the target to take action, buddy spike friendlies etc).

 

Would someone from Leatherneck be able to comment on the radar?

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