vicx Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 I went 4K and don't want to go back but regarding visibility? Its almost harder now What size is your monitor? The whole point of my post is to suggest that if you don't get the size right you lose the whole benefit.
BitMaster Posted September 23, 2015 Posted September 23, 2015 Depending on your gpu the performance hit isn't much with higher resolutions. It's the horrible engine depending on a gimped processor pipeline that crushes your fpS. Dcs world graphical,y is no challenge to the latest gpus. Alas the hope that dcs 2.0 fixes that is yet to be seen. +1 Gigabyte Aorus X570S Master - Ryzen 5900X - Gskill 64GB 3200/CL14@3600/CL14 - Sapphire Nitro+ 7800XT - 4x Samsung 980Pro 1TB - 1x Samsung 870 Evo 1TB - 1x SanDisc 120GB SSD - Heatkiller IV - MoRa3-360LT@9x120mm Noctua F12 - Corsair AXi-1200 - TiR5-Pro - Warthog Hotas - Saitek Combat Pedals - Asus XG27ACG QHD 180Hz - Corsair K70 RGB Pro - Win11 Pro/Linux - Phanteks Evolv-X
SharpeXB Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 4K is quite incredible looking. But 4.0x DSR on a 1080p screen is absolutely in no way equal at all to 4K. Not even a tiny bit. And it's impossible to show an example of a 4K screenshot to anyone looking at it on a 1080p screen, there aren't enough pixels to show the image. The only thing accomplished by DSR is a certain amount of antialiasing which is just super sampling. But it comes at a performance cost that's just not worth it. If you can really run the game at 2160x3480 pixels, get a screen with that resolution and get your money's worth. But don't waste time with DSR. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
vicx Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) What size is your monitor SharpeXB? I hope you went for a large 4K screen rather than say something at 27" size. it's impossible to show an example of a 4K screenshot to anyone looking at it on a 1080p screen FALSE It is NOT impossible at all. For certain combinations of screen you can show a PERFECT crop of a 4K screen on 2K screen. By perfect I mean perfect. Guess what screen sizes they might be? For some people DSR is just a tool they use. I can take perfect 8K screenshots in DCS using DSR or Gedosato. With Gedosato I can theoretically take 16K size screenshots. Edited September 24, 2015 by vicx
sobek Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 For certain combinations of screen you can show a PERFECT crop of a 4K screen on 2K screen. By perfect I mean perfect. Nonsense. Downsampling always reduces the contained information. There are techniques to mitigate this as much as possible, but the downsampled result will never contain all the information that the original did. Good, fast, cheap. Choose any two. Come let's eat grandpa! Use punctuation, save lives!
SharpeXB Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 (edited) What size is your monitor SharpeXB? I hope you went for a large 4K screen rather than say something at 27" size. FALSE It is NOT impossible at all. For certain combinations of screen you can show a PERFECT crop of a 4K screen on 2K screen. By perfect I mean perfect. Guess what screen sizes they might be? For some people DSR is just a tool they use. I can take perfect 8K screenshots in DCS using DSR or Gedosato. With Gedosato I can theoretically take 16K size screenshots. You can't see a 3840x2160 image on a 1080p screen anymore than you can see a 1080p image on a 480p one. It's impossible. Zooming into the image doesn't portray what it actually looks like. I'm using a 28" UHD monitor. The difference between 1080p and UHD is quite apparent at that size. You guys need to see one of these screens for real and that would end all your speculations. Look at an iPad Retina display, those are pretty sharp looking but they're only 2000x1500. A 4K screen is even sharper. You can read all the tiny instruments in your cockpit without zooming in and see individual soldiers on the ground. Edited September 24, 2015 by SharpeXB i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
vicx Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Downsampling always reduces the contained information. Well you don't need to downsample to crop an image. If you have a A 20" 1920x1080P monitor and a 40" 3840x2160P monitor sitting on your desk and you take a 9x9 inch square out of each ... what does that square look like? How many pixels are in each square? Do the math. Seriously. Sure what is shown on each square is different. No kidding!!! That's the whole point of my post. And for Sharpe ... if you have a 28" UHD monitor and it works for you ... good for you. MY POST WAS NOT FOR YOU. Use what you like. My post was for people with 1080p 24" monitors who wonder what they may be missing. It uses the best methodology possible to show them.
SharpeXB Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 Well you don't need to downsample to crop an image. If you have a A 20" 1920x1080P monitor and a 40" 3840x2160P monitor sitting on your desk and you take a 9x9 inch square out of each ... what does that square look like? How many pixels are in each square? Do the math. Seriously. Sure what is shown on each square is different. No kidding!!! That's the whole point of my post. And for Sharpe ... if you have a 28" UHD monitor and it works for you ... good for you. MY POST WAS NOT FOR YOU. Use what you like. My post was for people with 1080p 24" monitors who wonder what they may be missing. It uses the best methodology possible to show them. I see what you're explaining but it's still not possible to see that actual effect of what the whole image looks like by zooming in on samples of it. Every image is just a cluster of pixels at that point. If you have a real 4K screen to look at you'll understand immediately. i9-14900KS | ASUS ROG MAXIMUS Z790 HERO | 64GB DDR5 5600MHz | iCUE H150i Liquid CPU Cooler | ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 4090 OC | Windows 11 Home | 2TB Samsung 980 PRO NVMe | Corsair RM1000x | LG 48GQ900-B 4K OLED Monitor | CH Fighterstick | Ch Pro Throttle | CH Pro Pedals | TrackIR 5
vicx Posted September 24, 2015 Posted September 24, 2015 PM sent. Trust me there is technically no zooming involved at all ...
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