Ironhand Posted May 10, 2015 Posted May 10, 2015 (edited) My last landing ... Very nice! Nice! I need to work on my landings... My touchdown speed is usually 280-310 Kmh which is a bit fast... :) You're low speed in the range you give is the maximum allowable airspeed for the main gear to touch down, 270 k/hr for the nose gear. A good way to practice low speed handling is to start at about 2000-3000 meters and slow to 300 k/hr lowering landing gear and flaps along the way. Then establish a sink rate of 5 m/sec on the variometer, throttling back as necessary to hold 300. Then slowly throttle back a bit more and slow to 260-270 k/hr holding the same sink rate of 5 m/sec. Hold that airspeed and sink rate for as long as you're comfortable. That will give you a good feel for things. I generally make the turn onto final with flaps and gear extended at an airspeed north of 300 k/hr (it should be 350 according to the manual). Cross the outer marker at around 310 k/hr and the inner marker at around 290-300 (again according to the manual), touching down at around 260-270 depending on landing weight. Personally, if very very light, I slow to about 240 at touchdown. EDIT: Forgot to mention trimming. I normally trim so that it takes only a slight back pressure on my flight stick to maintain my flight path. That way, should I need to lower my nose a bit, it's a simple matter of easing back pressure rather than pushing the stick forward. But find your own preference. Edited May 10, 2015 by Ironhand YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
Bourrinopathe Posted May 13, 2015 Posted May 13, 2015 (edited) So I just tried those «posé sur retournement» with the Flanker to see how it goes. Unfortunately the tracks do not want to record my landings correctly. I always end-up misaligned. The tricky part is to find the right parameters to remain in the exact flight limits : lowest altitude and speed to end the split-s with the (smooth) landing. So far I achieved the landing starting the split-S at 750m AGL and 350+ km/h, deploying the speedbrake first, idle thrust, then the flaps and gear during the dive. On several landings I managed to reach -2 to -1 m/s sink rate just before the touch-down at 270 km/h (or something around those values). I find it difficult to land on the split-s exit, but you should try it, it's really fun to do ;) (on the attached track, I end up in the grass even if I was centered on the runway during the live landing)SU27 - LND_Rafstyle_2.trk Edited May 13, 2015 by Bourrinopathe /// ВКБ: GF Pro MkII+MCG Pro/GF MkII+SCG L/Black Mamba MkIII/Gladiator/T-Rudder MkII | X-55 Rhino throttle/Saitek Throttle Quadrant | OpenTrack+UTC /// ZULU +4 /// /// "THE T3ASE": i9 9900K | 64 GB DDR4 | RTX 2080ti OC | 2 TB NVMe SSDs, 1 TB SATA SSD, 12 TB HDDs | Gigabyte DESIGNARE mobo ///
DarkFire Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Very nice! :) You're low speed in the range you give is the maximum allowable airspeed for the main gear to touch down, 270 k/hr for the nose gear. A good way to practice low speed handling is to start at about 2000-3000 meters and slow to 300 k/hr lowering landing gear and flaps along the way. Then establish a sink rate of 5 m/sec on the variometer, throttling back as necessary to hold 300. Then slowly throttle back a bit more and slow to 260-270 k/hr holding the same sink rate of 5 m/sec. Hold that airspeed and sink rate for as long as you're comfortable. That will give you a good feel for things. I generally make the turn onto final with flaps and gear extended at an airspeed north of 300 k/hr (it should be 350 according to the manual). Cross the outer marker at around 310 k/hr and the inner marker at around 290-300 (again according to the manual), touching down at around 260-270 depending on landing weight. Personally, if very very light, I slow to about 240 at touchdown. EDIT: Forgot to mention trimming. I normally trim so that it takes only a slight back pressure on my flight stick to maintain my flight path. That way, should I need to lower my nose a bit, it's a simple matter of easing back pressure rather than pushing the stick forward. But find your own preference. Thanks, useful tips. The reason I favour higher speeds is that I find that the flanker gets very sluggish in roll response below ~300Kmh and since I often have to tweak my approach vector as I pass the outer marker things can get... Interesting... particularly in cross-wind landings :cry: More practise necessary I guess :joystick: System Spec: Cooler Master Cosmos C700P Black Edition case. | AMD 5950X CPU | MSI RTX-3090 GPU | 32GB HyperX Predator PC4000 RAM | | TM Warthog stick & throttle | TrackIR 5 | Samsung 980 Pro NVMe 4 SSD 1TB (boot) | Samsung 870 QVO SSD 4TB (games) | Windows 10 Pro 64-bit. Personal wish list: DCS: Su-27SM & DCS: Avro Vulcan.
Ironhand Posted May 14, 2015 Posted May 14, 2015 Thanks, useful tips. The reason I favour higher speeds is that I find that the flanker gets very sluggish in roll response below ~300Kmh and since I often have to tweak my approach vector as I pass the outer marker things can get... Interesting... particularly in cross-wind landings :cry: More practise necessary I guess :joystick: :) Continued practice is always necessary. On a straight in approach, though, you shouldn't need much in the way of course adjustment by the time you hit the outer marker. Just think ahead of the aircraft and you should be OK. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
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