BlazexX23Xx Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 I don't where to say this but i found a guys how believes that the f-15s radar is better that the Su-35s.He also insists that it is.
Frostie Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 http://www.ausairpower.net/APA-Flanker-Radars.html "[51☭] FROSTIE" #55 'Red 5'. Lord Flashheart 51st PVO "Bisons" - 100 KIAP Regiment Fastest MiG pilot in the world - TCR'10 https://100kiap.org
wilky510 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 I don't where to say this but i found a guys how believes that the f-15s radar is better that the Su-35s.He also insists that it is. Depends on what version of the F-15s' radar (there's alot, including an AESA now), Frosties' link should help though.
BlazexX23Xx Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 Depends on what version of the F-15s' radar (there's alot, including an AESA now), Frosties' link should help though. Why there is a version that is better than the Irbis-E?
wilky510 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 Why there is a version that is better than the Irbis-E? If there is any radar that is comparable to the Irbis-E or better it would be the AN/APG-63(V)3 (it's on some ANG Eagles i'm pretty sure). But honestly i wouldn't trust any public figures on what's exactly which one is better. They are either overstated or understated... I'm not to knowledgeable on radars, maybe someone can come in explain a little better which one is better and why.
GGTharos Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 AESA is better than PESA. Then only thing the Irbis-E can really do 'better' at is possibly detection range, but even that isn't guaranteed since a PESA generates more system noise than an AESA. All Golden Eagles will receive the v3; the transition has been happening for a while now, and the radar isn't the only upgrade. As a small point of interest, they also have IRSTs available to them now. That said, if you're being shot at by either system, you might not really care about the differences. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
BlazexX23Xx Posted May 22, 2015 Author Posted May 22, 2015 I was mostly talking about the AN/APG-63 and AN/APG-63(V)1 which are definitely not better than the Irbis-E.
wilky510 Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 AESA is better than PESA. Then only thing the Irbis-E can really do 'better' at is possibly detection range, but even that isn't guaranteed since a PESA generates more system noise than an AESA. All Golden Eagles will receive the v3; the transition has been happening for a while now, and the radar isn't the only upgrade. As a small point of interest, they also have IRSTs available to them now. That said, if you're being shot at by either system, you might not really care about the differences. is the IRST a pod or built in like the Japanese eagles IRST? Tried to look for some information on this a bit ago. Couldn't pin anything down.
Hummingbird Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 On US a/c its on a pod. Only US fighter with a built in IRST was the F-14D Tomcat IIRC.
GGTharos Posted May 22, 2015 Posted May 22, 2015 For the f-15c it's mounted on the centerline fuel tank, right at the front. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
*Rage* Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Centreline fuel tank? What happens when you jettison that tank? bye bye IRST? is it therefor look down only? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] 64th "Scorpions" Aggressor Squadron Discord: 64th Aggressor Squadron TS: 195.201.110.22
GGTharos Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 Down and straight ahead. Mostly used for long range ID I'm guessing. And yes if you drop the tank, bye bye IRST. I don't know if it can be mounted on the wing instead. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
Pilotasso Posted May 23, 2015 Posted May 23, 2015 (edited) Both fighters radars are very up there in the spectrum. Better than range would be target recognition and discrimination, signal stealth, resistance to ECM, and noise. The other functionalities I mentioned above may become the primary concern over sheer range at some point. And there might be times that the designers may be forced to choose between them. Irbis-E wins over the older models of APG-63 (mechanical) IMHO but are surpassed by the AESA variants like the APG-63V3 (they ought change the designation because its misleading) due to the same inherent technological advantages an AESA brings in an the same way the Irbis-E has over the older mechanical arrays. Simple :) Edited May 23, 2015 by Pilotasso .
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