Cannot maintain level flight with maximum nose down trim

[dok_rp]

Glad you like it, and you'll see the difference . And sorry for the OT,

 

Indeed. I wanted to keep it simple and avoid machinery use (dremel, you know) as much as possible. PVC is tough to work with, you have to heat a lot without burning it and warm up as much homogeneously as you can.

 

Affirmative. Elbows are for my own use clearing the seat, but you can keep it straight if you want to and your place allows it. You have to keep in mind using elbows also prevents joystick spring to center the jostick any more in positive pitch movement (but does in the other three directions) because Warthog stick is quite weighted. At least mine doesn't even though the really hard spring, but it doesn't falls itself, just keeps the position where you left it.

 

 

Affirmative, and affirmative. Male gardena screw is plastic so fits perfectly. Anyway I put some PVC glue inside after joining both parts just in case and it's quite strong till now. It's also possible to eliminate the screw threads leaving plastic straight, but I didn't IIRC and works fine. Again PVC is a tough one and heating requires same care as previously, this time to prevent any elbow bending or shape losing.

 

That's the reason for using that model, Warthog uses English screw measure (no metric) so you need one fitting perfectly to prevent damaging the original Joystick plastic screw threads. Depending in your result you can put some stop in female gardena screw to prevent screwing too far. It isn't needed to screw the base to the end and if you do it you can find extension hitting the Joystick base. To stop the screw you can make an o-ring using spare thick electrical cable, for instance the remnants of the PS2 long cable if you weld your own are good enough. You can use one, two or as wished o-rings. It's important also if you use elbows because you want your extension elbows to look backwards, if not stopped screw can end facing everywhere.

 

Indeed I took ideas from others also, so half idea .

 

S!

 

 

 

Thanks for everything, ManOWar. I will get the garden hose connector next week. It's already on its way. As soon as I have all the parts I will post again. :thumbup:

 

 

 

 

And avoid twist the joystick base fitting the extension, the plastic gimbal of Warthog is easy to broken.

 

Valeu Sokol!!! Como sempre ajudando muita gente!!! :thumbup::smartass:

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

Yes, as it is in game, I can trim the aircraft level, but this issue has been addressed, if this isnt about the OP, stop bringing it up please.

 

Please, ..What do you mean with the OP?.. Aircraft operation? :huh:

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

Please, ..What do you mean with the OP?.. Aircraft operation? :huh:

 

"Otto"

 

OP =abrev= "Original Post"

 

 

I have re-installed DCS World and all of the modules I own presently ( uh-1h, mi8, f86, p51d, fw190, me109), and today I bought yet another piece of hardware to go with it, because my good-old x52 Pro is half broken - a NEW TM 16000 M with HAL sensors for ** only ** €40,00!!!

 

This means I will get back my buttons, and, so I hope, a high precision joystick, soft, but with basically the same technology of an expensive Thrustmaster Warthog! I'm eager to try it with the K4 and the helicopters ;-)

 

Yet, the flights I have performed have brought me the same feelings I ever experience when using DCS: There is definitely something wonderful and unique about the way all of the ww2 warbirds are modeled, and as much as I would like to see some items addressed, truth is this is still BETA, and progressing.

 

I'm not in a hurry now for EDGE. I am not even interested in the new scenery "Nevada" but will rather wait for the Normandy map, which, at the pace things are progressing, I guess will probably not be available before September 2016, but really no problem for me... But I do look fwd for the Spit !!!

 

I use the ww2 birds in DCS as if I was a rich guy with a ww2 collection in his hangar. Sometimes I go online for some action though :-) and again, that's when I see how good in modeling DCS really is, even if not ( yet ) perfect...

 

I will wait for the upcoming patches. I am sure Yo-Yo must be stressed with the upcoming Spitfire, plus the continuous updates to the Fw190 and Me109 K4, not to mention support I guess he also gives to Belsimtek for those rotary wing FDMs ...

 

Let's just wait and trust he's going to give us a very realistic K4 - I am sure he will, even if sometimes I want to be pushy ( and egoist ) and not even try to put myself in his place for just a couple of minutes when, under stress an lot's of work to do, he still has to cope with some of the posts we ( me included of course ) write here...

 

Let's give Yo-Yo a break! Isn't, after all, the "final" p51d already a great model, and still work in progress in as far as for instance the damage model goes. Heck, he's just 1 guy, doing the whole thing behind the scene ( I mean, in as far as flight modeling goes... ).

Edited June 29, 2015 by jcomm

[Echo38]

today I bought yet another piece of hardware to go with it, because my good-old x52 Pro is half broken - a NEW TM 16000 M with HAL sensors for ** only ** €40,00!!!

 

This means I will get back my buttons, and, so I hope, a high precision joystick, soft, but with basically the same technology of an expensive Thrustmaster Warthog!

 

I use the T-16000M. It's a decent stick, for an SPJ. I'd even go as far as to say that, compared with other commercially-available mass-produced joysticks, the T-16000M is one of the best (there are about four contenders in this category, if you count the discontinued MSFFB2). However, although I'd definitely call it an upgrade from the Saitek X-52, overall, make no mistake; the T-16000M is no Warthog.

 

Each individual T-16000M I've tested (at least five pieces) came with defects in the form of hardware deadzones of varying sizes, on the outer limits of travel. So when you're pulling back e.g. 90% of the way, trying to save 10% travel to spare, you'll actually get full elevator deflection instead. This cannot be compensated for within the software, as it's a hardware defect. (CH Fightersticks have the same problem, but the same percentage of deadzone affects the TM more, because the TM has a shorter throw than the CH; I still prefer the TM to the CH, though, overall.)

 

Furthermore, there are few stick-hand usable buttons (three, plus trigger & hat) on the T-16000M. Not a problem for a WWII bird, but don't be expecting to trying to comfortably using the A-10C with this. The throttle slider is also too short-throw for making precise manifold pressure adjustments. You aren't going to kill your engine, but throttle control is going to be a bit clumsy. You may wish to keep your old stick plugged in, to use the T-16000 in your right and and the throttle of the Saitek in your other.

 

In the end, the T-16000M is the joystick I still recommend to anyone on a budget, as there are sticks twice or three times its cost with the same defects (and less precision). I don't think you made a mistake buying it; there are very few mass-produced simming sticks with better center precision (the Warhog's the only one that comes to mind). However, set your expectations reasonably. It's a good stick, for its price, and one of the better commercially-available simming sticks out there. But it's still an SPJ, and--like any other plastic-construction joystick--won't feel at all like a real aircraft stick.

Edited June 30, 2015 by Echo38

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

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I agree with all you wrote Echo, but indeed I must report that I am very satisfied with this 16000M.

 

It may not make a whole lot of a difference in DCS, IL2 BoS or RoF although at least now I have back a lot of buttons I was missing, but heck! It does make a difference driving my 747-400 on tricky / stormy / gusting approaches in Aerowinx PSX :-)

 

I also must say that although I fear the spring may suffer from the prolonged and more aggressive use in DCS, BoS and RoF, the stiffness is just right - at least better than what I have in the x52 Pro, much better than any of the springs in the x55 I bought and sold a couple of months latter, and certainly much much better than what a Thrustmaster Cougar HOTAS provided...

[Screamadelica]

I have to agree with Sithspawn. I find the 109 is fairly easy to maintain level flight with just a little forward stick pressure. This is with a standard Warthog joystick, with an extension it would be even better.

No complaints here. :thumbup:

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

I have to agree with Sithspawn. I find the 109 is fairly easy to maintain level flight with just a little forward stick pressure. This is with a standard Warthog joystick, with an extension it would be even better.

No complaints here. :thumbup:

Do you have the module DCS Bf-109K4. ?? ...in your profile show DCS: P-51D only.:music_whistling:

[NineLine]

Do you have the module DCS Bf-109K4. ?? ...in your profile show DCS: P-51D only.:music_whistling:

 

Funny, yours doesnt show any modules... so what does that mean?

[IIIJG52_Otto_]

Funny, yours doesnt show any modules... so what does that mean?

I´m Bf-109 virtual pilot of http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net virtual scuadron, as you can see in my signature,... When someone makes claims about bugs in the DCS A-10, Mi-8, etc, I say nothing about the bug is or is not correct. :music_whistling:

Edited June 30, 2015 by III/JG52_Otto_+

[NineLine]

I´m Bf-109 virtual pilot of http://www.jagdgeschwader52.net virtual scuadron, as you can see in my signature,... When someone makes claims about bugs in the DCS A-10, Mi-8, etc, I say nothing about the bug is or is not correct. :music_whistling:

 

Regardless... your comment was not needed, and once again OT. This is the last warning.

 

Closing this thread. if the OP needs more help, PM me and I can unlock, or clean this one up.