[NO BUG, CLOSED] nights are too dark

[BackboneOne]

is it me or nights are too dark comparing to previous version? you actually can't use VFR without NVG. it was possible before 1.5 for sure :matrix:

[DayGlow]

Is it the new engine? Do you have a good light source such as a full moon, or is it obscured by clouds?

[FlyGuyF119]

Looked good to me. Could be darker in the country areas in my opinion though.

[Bourrinopathe]

The rendering seems a bit weird on my test mission (fall/clear sky).

The full moon cast a direct light on the objects but not on the terrain, and the light source is inconsistent with the moon position (slightly to the right above the horizon on the left part of the first screenshot):

 

Full moon | New moon

 

Full moon | New moon

 

(sorry for mobile users - .png to avoid any ugly compression)

 

(high settings, using HDR)

 

Following the terrain in the mountains in the Su-27 is possible but tricky (400-500 kph). The overall night lighting/darkness looks ok to me but the difference between the full moon and the new moon should be visible on the terrain imho.

Edited October 3, 2015 by Bourrinopathe

[Brisse]

Are you using a calibrated monitor to come to these conclusions? I haven't tested flying at night yet in 1.5, but I'm just saying, that a properly calibrated monitor with decent accuracy is absolutely critical when judging these things. Maybe I will try a night flight tomorrow and see for myself :)

[Brisse]

Hey, I couldn't wait until tomorrow so I went ahead and checked under some different conditions.

 

I use a high end IPS monitor, hardware calibrated according to sRGB standard, gamma 2.2 (0% deviation) and average dE 0.4. This is excellent hardware for the purpose of this test.

 

As I suspected, it's not as dark as what you are seeing, and certainly not too dark. I cannot under any circumstances make it pitch black even with heavy clouds and no moon.

 

Conclusion: Your (BackboneOne) monitor is not calibrated properly. Also, I would like too see more pronounced difference between no moon and full moon. Heavy clouds and no moon should be pitch black, but it isn't.

[BackboneOne]

Hey, I couldn't wait until tomorrow so I went ahead and checked under some different conditions.

 

I use a high end IPS monitor, hardware calibrated according to sRGB standard, gamma 2.2 (0% deviation) and average dE 0.4. This is excellent hardware for the purpose of this test.

 

As I suspected, it's not as dark as what you are seeing, and certainly not too dark. I cannot under any circumstances make it pitch black even with heavy clouds and no moon.

 

Conclusion: Your (BackboneOne) monitor is not calibrated properly. Also, I would like too see more pronounced difference between no moon and full moon. Heavy clouds and no moon should be pitch black, but it isn't.

 

all im saying is that 1.5 night is a lot DARKER than previous version, which i played at the same monitor with same calibration.

 

does screenshots provided by Bourrinopathe not seem too dark to you?))

[Brisse]

does screenshots provided by Bourrinopathe not seem too dark to you?))

 

They do actually, but when I fire up the sim, it doesn't look like the screenshots. Not sure if it's caused by image file compression or something. I could never get the sim to look as dark as the screenshots.

[BackboneOne]

They do actually, but when I fire up the sim, it doesn't look like the screenshots. Not sure if it's caused by image file compression or something. I could never get the sim to look as dark as the screenshots.

 

actually i was wrong and after some comparison with different HDR settings i found that 1.5 night even brighter!

 

non-1.5

 

1.5

 

excuse me and delete the topic please :blush:

[Brisse]

There you go. That 1.5 screenshot is more representative of what I see ingame. There's a clear difference between 1.2 and 1.5 there.