Dirty Rotten Flieger Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Hi I have been trying to learn BVR tactics for F15, Su27, Mig29 and have been diving into the notch to break locks and it works quite well. Since 1.5 beta came out I have wondered if this effect has been increases and notching is even more effective , but maybe this is just because I have been flying the Mig 29 more and it does not seem to have as good look down, shoot down radar as F15 or su27. Correct me if I am wrong about that. Anyway I was just practicing with simple mission of 1v1 head on against AI over water and decided to try MIg21bis vs F15 and see what the detection range was for small mig21bis. It seemed that the F15 would not detect mig21 head on until quite close. 30 nm? So with me flying mig 21 very low over the sea I then turned into the notch and used the RWR to stay 90 to the F15 radar. Flying a curve as he approached . On The first two attempts he shot me down with aim120b but only WVR. On third attempt I shot him down with IR missile once I saw him and got on his tail. Does the radar on the f15 see me flying in the notch at close range or is the range irrelevant? I mean can I just go online in a Mig21 and when a single f15 approaches me get in the notch stay there till I see him WVR? It seems too good to be true that he would not be able to see me at all, if I am lower and notching .
red_coreSix Posted October 27, 2015 Posted October 27, 2015 Well, it's true that the MiG-21 has a pretty small radar cross section but against the F-15s radar you gotta be pretty much right on point with your notch otherwise he will see you. For multiplayer obviously, I don't know how notching is simulated against AI. AFAIK there is no minimum range for notching as I sometimes loose lock even when visually seeing the bandit. But the closer and faster you get the more accurate you need to notch.
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