Delerium Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Hello, So I was just started playing DCS over the week-end and it seems my Radeon ATI 7970 is a bit behind. At high, I get some little lag / sluggish moments. 1) Any of you runs the 7970 at High without any issue? ( I was wondering if it could be my setup) 2) For a new card, I've read that the GTX 970 is the best choice around, this apply to DCS as well? 3) While checking for a new GPU... Should I check for a CPU as well? I have currently have a i7-3770k System Spec: Intel i7-3770k 24GB Ram 2 x 250 SSD ATI Radeon 7970 Monitor: ASUS PB278, 2560 x 1440, 27" Thanks!
dburne Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I currently am running a GTX 970 with great results , I would note I am running the Open Beta 1.5. DCS 1.5 uses the new Edge graphics engine, and makes much better use of the graphic cards power. On my system ( a 4820K running at 4.5 ghz), I am getting over 100 fps pretty consistently. I have all graphics on highest setting except DOF off. No stuttering at all, buttery smooth for me. Performance is great for me so far. I was getting good framerates in 1.2 as well, but it was more like 80 fps or so. You are fine with that processor, it is a very good one and with it being a K processor is very easily overclocked by just changing the cpu multiplier. Don't know if you have done any overclocking or not, but if you had a decent cooler I would think you could easily get that processor to 4.3-4.5 ghz as well. I run the Corsair H100i closed loop water cooler. Even without manual overclocking, your cpu with turbo enabled run at 3.9 ghz, which should be fine as well. Now I am not up to speed really with the AMD cards anymore, so I can't really say what kind of difference you might expect coming from your card. I am very pleased with the performance of my GTX 970 ( I have an EVGA GTX 970 FTW)... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
cichlidfan Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 The rest of your system is fine. A 970 should give you excellent results. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
Delerium Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks. I'll probably get a EV GTX 970. Do you have the specific model? Seems like there's is 32 variants of them on Amazon! Is it this on? 04G-P4-2978-KR http://www.amazon.ca/EVGA-GeForce-Quieter-Graphics-04G-P4-2974-KR/dp/B00NVODXR4/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1447093584&sr=8-1&keywords=evga+gtx+970 Right now, my CPU is not overclocked, I have CoolerMaster 12EVO that I never installed, I think I will try OC and see if I get any benefits. Thanks !
cichlidfan Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Any OC will definitely improve things. ASUS ROG Maximus VIII Hero, i7-6700K, Noctua NH-D14 Cooler, Crucial 32GB DDR4 2133, Samsung 950 Pro NVMe 256GB, Samsung EVO 250GB & 500GB SSD, 2TB Caviar Black, Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! Extreme 8GB, Corsair HX1000i, Phillips BDM4065UC 40" 4k monitor, VX2258 TouchScreen, TIR 5 w/ProClip, TM Warthog, VKB Gladiator Pro, Saitek X56, et. al., MFG Crosswind Pedals #1199, VolairSim Pit, Rift CV1 :thumbup:
dburne Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks. I'll probably get a EV GTX 970. Do you have the specific model? Seems like there's is 32 variants of them on Amazon! Is it this on? 04G-P4-2978-KR That would be very nice card. I have the FTW I got shortly after it came out, now they have the FTW+ that replaced it. Basically these cards, like the SC and FTW, are already tested and factory overclocked a little, so their standard boost clock will be higher than say a reference version. EVGA makes great cards, you will not go wrong. I have only run EVGA cards for the last several years. Be aware these cards come with ACX2, which is passive cooling. At idle, and until they reach a certain temp, the fans are not even on. No big problem, but for gaming you might want them to come on sooner and run at certainy speeds - I use MSI Afterburner for this, I use it to set a fan profile to keep my card cool when gaming... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Delerium Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 Great. I just found the FTW (and the meaning of) on Amazon. A bit pricey, but too be expected for high-end video card. Do you think it could handle my current monitor + another standard (1080p) as well? Thanks!
dburne Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 I run two monitors with mine. Main display is 1920x1080x144hz Secondary display is 1680x1050x60hz I run my games on my main monitor, and have the desktop extended to my secondary monitor where I have my flight manuals, MSI Afterburner, and other icons. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Delerium Posted November 9, 2015 Author Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Thanks. I think I'll buy this one. Good reviews so far. ;) Appreciated. Edit: Ordered. ;) Edited November 9, 2015 by Delerium Place the order.
dburne Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Thanks. I think I'll buy this one. Good reviews so far. ;) Appreciated. Edit: Ordered. ;) :thumbup: Congrats! I think you will really like it, be sure and post back your thoughts when you get it in and running. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
PureEvil Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 Hello, So I was just started playing DCS over the week-end and it seems my Radeon ATI 7970 is a bit behind. At high, I get some little lag / sluggish moments. 1) Any of you runs the 7970 at High without any issue? ( I was wondering if it could be my setup) 2) For a new card, I've read that the GTX 970 is the best choice around, this apply to DCS as well? 3) While checking for a new GPU... Should I check for a CPU as well? I have currently have a i7-3770k System Spec: Intel i7-3770k 24GB Ram 2 x 250 SSD ATI Radeon 7970 Monitor: ASUS PB278, 2560 x 1440, 27" Thanks! have you tried 1.5 Beta DCS already? if not, do that first, everything seems to work smoother with that new game engine. STEAM asus p8z68-v gen3, 2600k@4,5ghz(w/c), 16gb, 1080ti(w/c), ch fighterstick/gvl224-4000-8, ch pro throttle, Oculus Rift CV1+Touch, thrustmaster tx
Delerium Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Hi, I got the new card yesterday! Installed the new beast and I did not see much much more improvement over the 7970, surprisingly. With everything at high, cockpit frame at 1024, slightly more bushes/trees, I roughly get a 40fps on the runway and somewhere between 60-80 when flying. As PureEvil, the OpenBeta 1.5 seems to do a good job even with my 7970. I barely had the time (only test it out for about 15 mins) to do more digging yet, but I was expecting better results :( I'll post screenshot of my setting a bit later on (I'm at work so..) btw, the game is very playable and looks beautiful, so there's no real issue there, maybe my expectation were a bit too high. :music_whistling: - D.
dburne Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Hi, I got the new card yesterday! Installed the new beast and I did not see much much more improvement over the 7970, surprisingly. First, did you do a complete cleanout of the AMD drivers before installing the Nvidia drivers? ( uninstall and then clean out with a program like DDU ( Display Driver Uninstaller) ? What Nvidia drivers did you install? Did you install the whole package? I personally only install the driver and PhysX. What video settings are you running in the Nvidia control panel? ( I recommend application controlled and setting all your settings in the game GUI). Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Delerium Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 Howdy, I uninstall the AMD driver from the control panel, that's all I did. I'm planning to do a clean re-install of Win10 when the November update drops (supposed to be today / tomorrow) and see if that helps. Also, I did install the whole package, including the GeForce experience app. I also installed the PrecisionX tool for the EVGA card, but I did not tweak anything yet. In the NVidia control panel, everything seems to be Application controlled.. Well, everything that can be. For now, I think my best bet is to do a clean install, I had that in mind since I don't trust the AMD uninstall, at, all. I'll post again after this clean install. Happy day!
dburne Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 For now, I think my best bet is to do a clean install, I had that in mind since I don't trust the AMD uninstall, at, all. I'll post again after this clean install. That would be a good start, I would go ahead and use DDU to uninstall both the Nvidia graphics driver and the AMD graphics driver. ( laying odds DDU will find some AMD graphics files to remove even though you uninstalled previously). Then install latest Nvidia drivers clean ( try custom install and only install the driver and PhysX). Set in your DCS exe in Nvidia control panel, to " prefer maximum performance". Don't know if this will help your performance, but would be a fresh clean start and at least rule that part of it out... Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Delerium Posted November 11, 2015 Author Posted November 11, 2015 That would be a good start, I would go ahead and use DDU to uninstall both the Nvidia graphics driver and the AMD graphics driver. ( laying odds DDU will find some AMD graphics files to remove even though you uninstalled previously). Then install latest Nvidia drivers clean ( try custom install and only install the driver and PhysX). Set in your DCS exe in Nvidia control panel, to " prefer maximum performance". Don't know if this will help your performance, but would be a fresh clean start and at least rule that part of it out... Yup, I did a quick test on lunch time, and just changing setting up dcs.exe in the NVidia panel (prefer max perf).. I'm now roughly at 80/100FPS :) Thanks for that. I'll do a clean install later this evening and see if I can get better result. But right now, I'm happy. Also the fan is super quiet compare to my old card, which is a big plus!!! Cheers! :drink::thumbup:
dburne Posted November 11, 2015 Posted November 11, 2015 Yup, I did a quick test on lunch time, and just changing setting up dcs.exe in the NVidia panel (prefer max perf).. I'm now roughly at 80/100FPS :) Thanks for that. I'll do a clean install later this evening and see if I can get better result. But right now, I'm happy. Also the fan is super quiet compare to my old card, which is a big plus!!! Cheers! :drink::thumbup: :thumbup: Glad it helped, have fun and enjoy that new card! Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
lark0007 Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 The rest of your system is fine. A 970 should give you excellent results. Hi, do you think the 970 should work fine in my system as well? MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77. Procesor: INTEL CORE i7-3770 3,4 - 3,9GHz. HD: 2x SanDisk eXtreme 240GB in STRIP Mempry: CORSAIR VENGEANCE BLACK, 16GB, DDR3, 1866MHz Grafic card: EVGA GTX680 SUPERCLOCKED, GeForce GTX680 1124MHz, 2GB DDR5, 6208MHz. Power supply: CORSAIR TX750M, 750W, 140 mm ventilátor Case: COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS. Info ZDE.
fixen Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Hi, do you think the 970 should work fine in my system as well? MB: ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77. Procesor: INTEL CORE i7-3770 3,4 - 3,9GHz. HD: 2x SanDisk eXtreme 240GB in STRIP Mempry: CORSAIR VENGEANCE BLACK, 16GB, DDR3, 1866MHz Grafic card: EVGA GTX680 SUPERCLOCKED, GeForce GTX680 1124MHz, 2GB DDR5, 6208MHz. Power supply: CORSAIR TX750M, 750W, 140 mm ventilátor Case: COOLERMASTER HAF 912 PLUS. Info ZDE. If you feel like you need an upgrade go for it. The 970 is faster for sure. I don't think i would upgrade yet if i had your system (though I dont exactly know how many frames you are getting with a 680), but that is a personal thing. And it is easy for me to say since I got a 970 at release :music_whistling:
MAS Posted January 10, 2016 Posted January 10, 2016 I would go for any card with more than 6GB+ Vram only becouse DCS 2,0 at Nevada uses 6,5 GB Vram from graphic card. Version 1,5 uses easly 3,5 Vram. Ryzen 9 5900X |32GB RAM |Nvidia 4070|ASUS X370 PRO|EVGA 1000|NVME SAMSUNG 500MB|Thrustmaster Hotas X|32" |Track IR 5|Win10 x64|
tiborrr Posted January 11, 2016 Posted January 11, 2016 Hello, So I was just started playing DCS over the week-end and it seems my Radeon ATI 7970 is a bit behind. At high, I get some little lag / sluggish moments. 1) Any of you runs the 7970 at High without any issue? ( I was wondering if it could be my setup) 2) For a new card, I've read that the GTX 970 is the best choice around, this apply to DCS as well? 3) While checking for a new GPU... Should I check for a CPU as well? I have currently have a i7-3770k System Spec: Intel i7-3770k 24GB Ram 2 x 250 SSD ATI Radeon 7970 Monitor: ASUS PB278, 2560 x 1440, 27" Thanks! Check out this thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=157374 HD7970 is basically a 280X so look for these results. Are you running DSC 1.5 openbeta? Is you CPU overclocked? I would definitely look into this, especially since your CPU has unlocked multiplier. Memory speed might also be the factor here.
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