wernst Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 The RETURN mode (BO3B) gives guidance to “initial landing approach point” of the selected airfield. When arriving at this point the NAV system automatically switched to "Landing" mode which is indicated as “NOC” on the HUD. Simultaneously, in addition to the navigation mark, a small "ILS deviation mark" (director circle) should appear in the HUD Center. And, on the bottom of the HUD, a “localizer beam indicator” and a “glide path localizer index” should be visible. But neither the small director circle nor the localizer indicator or glide path index appear. I learned that this kind of ILS display is dedicated to airfields with the Russian ILS system only. I tried ILS approaches to three airfields with Russian ILS: URKW, URKL, URKH. None of these fields give the kind of ILS display functionality as described above. did I miss anything?
Ironhand Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Strange. It had been working for those fields. Unfortunately I'm not at home and, so, can't check on it. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
wernst Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 Strange. It had been working for those fields. Unfortunately I'm not at home and, so, can't check on it. Would be nice if you can check, I don’t know what is going wrong. The Russian ILS system seems to be less complex but more effective at the same time. I’d like to find out. The other issue I have with the Russian NAV system has been posted under "NAV mode “RETURN” without airfield designator". I assume the field designators were omitted by the DCS programmer and not by the designer of the real thing.
Ironhand Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Would be nice if you can check, I don’t know what is going wrong. The Russian ILS system seems to be less complex but more effective at the same time. I’d like to find out. The other issue I have with the Russian NAV system has been posted under "NAV mode “RETURN” without airfield designator". I assume the field designators were omitted by the DCS programmer and not by the designer of the real thing. I know that the sim's Su-25 has those numerical designators--or did. I'm not sure about the Flanker, though. I normally don't look for them in the first place. So I'm a bit fuzzy on this. My response in your other thread suggested that them had gone AWOL but, for some reason, I'm thinking they might never have been there in the first place. It'll most likely be morning before I'm in a position to check whether or not those ILSs are missing. Hopefully someone will have responded before then. EDIT: A thought: Are you at the right altitude over the AIP (IAF) to actually intercept the beam? YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
grunf Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 I just tried to land at Krymsk, the ILS seems to be working fine.
wernst Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 EDIT: A thought: Are you at the right altitude over the AIP (IAF) to actually intercept the beam? Vaild question. Yes, in Landing (NOC) mode I precisely stick to the indicated ALT and HDG when intercepting the “initial landing approach point”. I considers this point comparable to the IAF of the standard ILS procedure.
wernst Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 I just tried to land at Krymsk, the ILS seems to be working fine. Yes, that's how it should be. There is only one strange thing. At the right down side of the HUD where the NAV mode is displayed I can see "LNDG". My Su-27 shows at this position "NOC", the Russian shortcut for landing. Just to make sure, was it the Su-27 in DCS 1.51?
Ironhand Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 At the right down side of the HUD where the NAV mode is displayed I can see "LNDG". My Su-27 shows at this position "NOC", the Russian shortcut for landing... He has the English Cockpit enabled in Options. YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCU1...CR6IZ7crfdZxDg _____ Win 11 Pro x64, Asrock Z790 Steel Legend MoBo, Intel i7-13700K, MSI RKT 4070 Super 12GB, Corsair Dominator DDR5 RAM 32GB.
grunf Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 Yes, that's how it should be. There is only one strange thing. At the right down side of the HUD where the NAV mode is displayed I can see "LNDG". My Su-27 shows at this position "NOC", the Russian shortcut for landing. Just to make sure, was it the Su-27 in DCS 1.51? Yep, it's 1.5.1. As Ironhand said, I have enabled English cockpit.
wernst Posted November 19, 2015 Author Posted November 19, 2015 Yep, it's 1.5.1. As Ironhand said, I have enabled English cockpit. made it! Stupid error. I was guided in RTN mode always to the wrong ILS approach heading just opposite to the active one. Thanks to grunf's cockpit view I could see that his KRYMSK ILS approach is to RWY 22. I tried this approach and it worked fine. Thank you grunf. Recently I've seen somewhere else in this forum a map of fields with Russian ILS. This map indicated with red direction arrows that these fields have ILS approaches in both directions. Wrong. Case closed.
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