Goldsmack Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 So kind of a random question I was wondering about the USAF aggressor aircraft. I know that they are there to simulate likely enemy aircraft western forces would encounter by painting F-16 and F-15s and using enemy tactics but my question is in regards to the aircraft performance/systems. Are the aggressor aircraft also modified engine/computer wise so simulate the performance of Su-27/Migs? like altering AOA and thrust to weight? or do the pilots try to fly "like" there in a Mig? Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
will487 Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I believe the aircraft are usually strengthened to deal with the continuous high G-force loads associated with dog-fighting. Any equipment not necessary for visual-range aerial combat is also usually removed from the aircraft to increase its agility and performance in combat. Other than that, I think it's just different paint schemes and markings :thumbup: [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
ronen Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 In the Falcón bms manual (pag 41) the f16 agressor radar signal is equal to mig29, su27, 30, 33, 35, 37 and J11
Goldsmack Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 I believe the aircraft are usually strengthened to deal with the continuous high G-force loads associated with dog-fighting. Any equipment not necessary for visual-range aerial combat is also usually removed from the aircraft to increase its agility and performance in combat. Other than that, I think it's just different paint schemes and markings :thumbup: Ah good to know, I was thinking if they had modified them to that extent would it not be easier just to buy some export versions of the migs or Sukoi. Thanks for the reply Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
Goldsmack Posted December 11, 2015 Author Posted December 11, 2015 In the Falcón bms manual (pag 41) the f16 agressor radar signal is equal to mig29, su27, 30, 33, 35, 37 and J11 I wonder how this is achieved? broad cast a signal that fools the EWR and the search radar? interesting. Windows 10 Pro 64, I5 4690k @4.6GHz with CAPTIAN 240EX AOI, Samsung 850 EVO ,G Skill Ripjaws 16G RAM, Nvidia GTX 970 STRIX, MSI Z97 GAMING 5, WD Blue 1TB HDD, Seasonic M12 II EVO psu, Track IR 5, Pro Flight X-55 Rhino H.O.T.A.S
Sweep Posted December 11, 2015 Posted December 11, 2015 I kinda doubt that they modify the radar for that...But I have heard that the Aggressors, or at least the 65th (which is now gone, RIP), were using foreign ECM pods at one point... IIRC it was one of the Israeli DECM pods. Lord of Salt
Nealius Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 What Block F-16 do the aggressors fly? Since RWR symbology is pre-programmed wouldn't it be theoretically possible to program the aggressor's radar signal to be interpreted as a MiG, assuming the aggressors use a different radar?
mvsgas Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 Speaking about aggressor F-16, some aircraft have additional antennas but RADARS and engine are the same. Also the air frames are not strengthen AFAIK. They do carry a special pod, the AN/ALQ-188 but I'm not sure how it all works. The F-16 used are block 30 in Eielson AFB and block 25 and 32 in Nellis AFB. To whom it may concern, I am an idiot, unfortunately for the world, I have a internet connection and a fondness for beer....apologies for that. Thank you for you patience. Many people don't want the truth, they want constant reassurance that whatever misconception/fallacies they believe in are true..
Basher54321 Posted December 12, 2015 Posted December 12, 2015 To add to mvsgas some have been seen with the Exelis (originally ELTA) ACAP ECM pod and AAS-42 IRST pod.
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